• Fleur_@aussie.zone
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    3 months ago

    I start pronouncing it yiff whenever someone complains. Eventually they beg me to say it how I want to say it.

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    3 months ago

    Linearity uses LASER ARGUMENT!

    LASER is actually an acronym that stands for “Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation” however it is widely pronounced as “lazer”.

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    3 months ago

    I always felt like this was a weird argument. Language is always in flux. It’s why the definition of “literally” now includes a definition that it’s a synonym of “figuratively” since people used it that was so much.

    If enough people think gif should be pronounced like “god”, then it should. If the “jif” pronunciation has enough people who use it, then that’s valid, too. Hell, if a bunch of people started legitimately saying it should be a homonym with the word “plankton,” even that’d be valid.

    Words are about conveying meaning; the same meaning is intended with both pronunciations, and understood by the people hearing it. There’s nothing to argue about.

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      I think most people who argue this either way aren’t actually serious about it. You do have solid points, however.

      Regardless, I will continue to argue about this point (opposite of whatever side whoever I’m talking to is taking) until it feels more annoying than fun to me.

    • happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml
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      the “literally means figuratively now” argument is stupid, saying it in non literal scenarios is used as hyperbole. You would never say “I’m figuratively dying of thirst”

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        I wasn’t trying to discredit the validity of its use, I was trying to say that it’s valid specifically because it’s used. It doesn’t matter if you want to say “I’m figuratively dying of thirst.” or “I’m literally dying of thirst.” since they convey the same meaning, and are interpreted as such by the listener.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, I dont care how people pronounce it. It’s when people get serious and militant on how it should be pronounced where I just laugh at them.

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      Gif is a proper noun and a computer product. It’s not a simple word like “arse”. This would be like people saying Nike should be pronounced “Nick” and the company “Nike” is yelling “no it’s Nike! Like the god!” And people are just like, “nah I don’t care what you want your company to be called, I’m calling it something else.”

      • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        If enough people pronounce it differently, then it’s a valid way to pronounce it.

        It doesn’t matter if it’s a proper noun, the word is still meant to convey meaning and as long as it effectively does that for the population in general, it’s valid.

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          We’ve solidly been talking about English this whole time, since the entire basis for the pronunciation is that it’s a play on an English advertisement “choosy developers choose gif”. I’m not going to argue with other languages. Just like with the dude that is pulling out Ancient Greek, if anyone still speaks that they yeah they can pronounce Nike differently, otherwise it’s a translation to English.

          • 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Even English doesn’t have one size fits all rules. Language is social and regional. If one English speaking country pronounces zebra as “zee-bra” and another pronounces it as “zeh-bra” they’re both right.

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            In English the word “Island” has an ‘s’ in it. This was originally done by someone purposely adding the ‘s’ to make the word look more Latin, even though the English word “eiland” has no Latin root.

            So if the original intended usage matters I hope you also correct everyone who uses “island” and tell them “you know it’s spelled eiland right?”

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                Neither is .gif, it’s a file type. Demonstrated by the fact that you haven’t capitalized it in any of your posts.

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                  Proper nouns have no requirement to be capitalized in modern English. It’s a proper noun and a product.

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        The fact that you had to spell it wrong to communicate the “proper” pronouciation is not a good sign for your argument.

            • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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              No. It’s ambiguous, hence the confusion. Just today actually I had a German guy asking me about GHAR-EE-man-dering actually!

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                “Someone else intuitively used a hard ‘g’ for a different word” is not the argument you think it is.

                Did you understand what they were asking about?

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                  They were trying to ask about gerrymandering. It’s a hot topic in American politics right now, but it’s something that has been used similarly in other places as well so it’s worth being familiar with.

                  I sorry if you like hard Gs better. When you invent a technology and acronym for it and publically write and announce how it’s pronounced, I promise I’ll respect that too.

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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            The letter ‘s’ was added to “Island” as a stylistic choice in order to make a word that has no Latin root appear more Latin. Do you go around telling people “the intended spelling is eyland”?

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                a sort. you can intend people to use a word you made up or pronounce it a certain way, but how it’s used or pronounced is how it’s going to be in the language regardless of its creator’s intent.

                • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                  Language is not completely a democratic process. A 30:70 split on pronunciation doesn’t indicate that one version is going to fade into oblivion. Pronunciation can evolve but so can definition. The word “literally” no longer means what it used to mean in common vernacular. Not everyone should be expected to accept these majority trends though. Many of us still want “literally” to preserve its original definition for example.