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          No. But if we are going to talk about Russia having tapes of trump again 9 years after the last time, I’d like more concrete sources than a shitposting sub, or a Steel Dossier.

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          Yes actually, I would fucking love a source — finally something that can be used to nail his ass to an upside down cross.

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        I mean, it’s probably true. Those tapes almost certainly exist and Putin has means to get them. But also, yeah, almost certain is not a fact. This is one of those cases where citing can only reduce the credibility of a statement by pretending there needs to be something more definitive than, “well, obviously.”

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          There were at least 3 beyond highly likely sources for the concealed tapes:

          Seeing how Putin is very adept at working in shaded circles it’s very reasonable to assume he now is in possession of a copy.
          Not even unthinkable that epstein sold/gave putin a copy himself when he went there when Trump also had regular personal dealings in moscow.

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            There’s a much simpler way, Trump has been visiting Russia since the 80s. Their government could have just set it up when he was over there and filmed it.

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    And the NY Times helped. Carrying water for war criminals lost the dems the election. Heck of a job, NY Times.

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    We haven’t been a scientific super power since the space race. The shuttle program was cool, but we even abandoned that.

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    I didn’t have this on my bingo card when i was growing up. I was told we were the science superpower and the best country in the world.

    Now you realize they were all lies.

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      America gave away scientific dominance when we let corporations write patent law.

      American taxpayers pay 160 billion every god damn year for “science”. Which is almost always grant money to billion dollar corporations who then gouge the very people who paid for it.

      It’s not just a shite healthcare system, every layer is a grift.

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        American taxpayers pay 160 billion every god damn year for “science”. Which is almost always grant money to billion dollar corporations who then gouge the very people who paid for it.

        Not even close to true, Most of the money was spent at universities doing research and training PhDs. This was the number one driver of the US economy for innovation and it returned hundreds of thousands of high tech jobs.

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          You’re getting closer. Where are these tech jobs it “returned”? Dot-coms understaffed by underpaid minions fearing the next strategic lay-off and hoping this sprint will move the project forward so some other group can package it for sale to the very people who funded that thesis already? Those jobs?

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            Maybe they meant biotech and physical engineering jobs, instead of algorithm engineers for the big consumer data collectors?

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            Calm down Francis, hundreds of biotechs in Boston and Stanford areas, the guys who came up with a COVID vaccine in weeks. The algorithm guys went to Silicon Valley because America values post doctoral Fellows right with trash collectors, while lawyers and frat boys on Wall street take all the money for shuffling paper.

            With the end of the NIH, because some baby got insulted by reality in 2020, we will see no new drugs from 2030 onward. Zero. That will end US domination in pharma and pivot the world to buy from Asia, yet again.

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              And the COVID vaccine was only possible because someone was working on MRNA vaccines for decades before that. It was not made in weeks if that knowledge was not there it wouldn’t have been possible.

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    Guess we have to recommend kids who want to do real science in their future to learn Chinese or Korean.

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    “We’ll show all those pointy headed smarty pants who’s boss!! We’re taking over!”

    – MAGA mouth breathers

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    I think united states is envious of chairman Mao and wants to have their own cultural revolution too. Already had the military parade that outshone that of President Xi. Now have to outdo him in killing academics and intellectuals.

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      I think they view the downsides as temporary pain to achieve an end goal, which is an ethnostate for white people. Their philosophy hasn’t been under the table at all, they say societies which benefit only one race (and obviously falsely, one set of beliefs), are better than those which have internal strife. All of this is laughable, since Israel has achieved as close to an ethnostate as we’ve seen, and yet they’re unsustainable.

      These people have failed upwards their entire lives, so they all feel confident that in the event of failure, they have the capital to smash and grab before the end using insider information. They’re the worst humans on earth.

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    America is likely unique among superpowers, as it is INTENTIONALLY trying to commit suicide. Other empires throughout time died from disaster, neglect, and “fuck that guy”, but never quite in this fashion.

    America has no reasonable excuse for what it did to itself, and will be a case study for millennia to come.

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      It’s also speed running with destroying itself. Although the signs had been there for a few decades now, the way it went down with trump was just amazingly fast and interesting in a morbid way

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        It would be kinda neat if Summoning Salt did a mockumentary about the Trumpian Speedrun. Maybe in collaboration with BobbyBrocolli.

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    Yeah, but we got to own the libs. Are we not “great”, again?

    Also, outlets like the New York Fucking Times get to pretend to just float above it all, being “objective” in their reporting, because - say it with me - “both sides”.

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      We definitely are something again. The hate for the mere mention of “progressive” in this country is baffling. Like a toddler that doesn’t want to grow up.

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        It’s especially stupid because we tend to poll progressive on the issues. And yet we keep getting regressive policy.

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    A healthy, well educated population which feels safe and secure is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    joyous imaginative freedom.

    That’s what Americans have had in general for a long time. They think they are free, because they’ve been indoctrinated to think that, but compared to better democracies, they really aren’t.