Only that one time I was self employed.
Me, looking in the mirror
You’re too ugly to work here. You’re fired!
Never
Not personally but my old manager certainly did. I really wish I had reported to HR but I was still new, early in my career and the company wasn’t very corporate - HR was just a lady who was an early hire without any real credentials.
He (my manager) would regularly hand CVs around the team to see if they were a good fit skill wise but would also search for (and print off!) any facebook photos he could find that showed skin. He almost exclusively looked for and hired women. He later got sacked for bullying and generally being very inappropriate.
No, but I assume it’s why I’ve got every job I’ve ever had
When I was younger, definitely. There is one job I didn’t get because one of the women in the panel immediately turned against me, so I suppose it had its downsides sometimes.
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I’m not a handsome man (not ugly either, I ain’t complaining!), but I have been told I have a “friendly face”, like the face of someone you know you can ask for help, and since I’ve only worked front desk jobs after my short time in the army, it probably helped.
There was a Winn Dixie by my old house where the manager had a thing for pretty, young, white girls. Every single cashier was really young and really pretty, no exceptions. It was so obvious my ex-wife and I laughed about it all the time. Seemingly overnight, suddenly the cashiers were all ages, races and varying attractiveness. I would kill to know the story behind that.
Worked at Eskimo Joe’s in college and all the servers were white girls and insanely hot. Something changed and we got a single waiter and some not so pretty waitresses. I think someone sued them or tried to, been over 30 years ago, can’t remember.
anecdotaly, all the guys who’ve been hired recently at our company have really nice butts, but I doubt it’s intentional lol
Everyone who has ever hired an attractive person at least subconsciously let it effect their decision.
I agree.
I think people should change their names for similar reasons. If you want to get a certain job or whatnot, change your name as that is one of the strongest ways to create a similar bias. Like if I want to be an electrical engineer, change my name to Max Watts. I bet the bias that creates is equivocal; just on the edge of plausibly deniable consciousness.
I chose to wear glasses instead of contacts because people respect me more when I am wearing glasses.
I was a hiring manager for years and my store manager did this.
First 2 weeks as i was getting to know the crew, i noticed they were all in high school, mostly women, and on the better looking side. Then as the months we on, he put me in charge of hiring and i actually hired based on skill and personality since that’s what matters in retail.
He always had the final “approval” interview and i could tell he never liked the smart ones or ones that weren’t blonde and white. He refused to hire several of them till i reminded him we pay $9 an hour and we have to take ANYONE who is willing to work for such a poor wage.
I’ll never forget the last hire he did before i quit. He had this like 18 year old girl come in for an interview since she shopped in the store with her parents a couple days before. He hired her ON THE SPOT without consulting me and i wasn’t happy. The VERY next day, her parents send us an email saying she had a complete mental breakdown and is in the psych hospital being treated.
It is a conundrum with retail. In a bike shop environment, women are only 5%-15% of the market in objective unbiased total, (based on numbers from the largest wholesale distributors).
Women will buy from women in a bike shop but not from men in most cases. Likewise, the demographic of male cyclists that shop in brick and mortar retail stores, is very partial to female staff. Therefore, by the back office numbers, a girl is statistically far more valuable for shop staff in almost every circumstance regardless of personality, intelligence, or skill. I would like to say otherwise, but the numbers in the shops with ~60 employees across 3 stores and years pointed otherwise. The thing that really sucks is how women’s retail stuff for cycling is always a loss or breaks even at best. The lack of volume leads to major issues with overburden inventory over time. Overburden is why most nice shops fail within a decade or are a hobby business with someone willing to inject considerable funds in the $100k-$300k range to bail out the shop about once a decade. Every time a wrong part is ordered or a poorly planned size run of clothing sells lopsided, or some niche lineup of bikes is suddenly unpopular, it chips away at cash flow and eventually strangles the business slowly from the back office causing a default on a major distributor’s credit account. This causes all the mainline distributors to pull the shop’s credit for cash only access. Next preseason order cycle, the margins will be garbage and no popular products are accessible. No shop will last more than 2 years like this.
So like, I hired any female cyclist at a much higher starting wage. I was the Buyer and back office manager for the chain. From my perspective, I viewed women on staff like a life vest and triage. My job was to keep the thing alive for as long as possible without losing access to credit. Women were an opportunity to triage a large open wound where my alternative is to give up entirely on 5%-15% of the entire market.
Maybe that is an interesting counter perspective. I only cared about the unbiased numbers. In most instances I rarely interacted with these people. And at work, I have a strict policy of ‘never shitting in my own back yard.’
Was in a talk with one of the co founders of that British folding bike company and he said men and women prefer women selling them bikes apparently
Being competent is sexy what can I say
No. Even if had ever wanted to, when I’ve needed to hire someone the baseline of competency and was such that we were happy to have the most qualified person be willing to take lower pay than they probably deserved as it was all we could afford. It’s hard to present a legitimate reason to hire a candidate that’s genuinely less qualified that someone else unless they’re just waaay over qualified.
In general, I hire caregivers for disabled people, and I’ll give a job to anyone who will do it for what we pay (about 20/ hour). However, the people get a say in who gets hired, and a few times, they have chosen to hire beautiful women. They never last, mostly because its such an intimate position, (you’re spending hours of your time one on one), and some of these people being cognitively impaired, they couldn’t help but make it weird.
I’ve never hired anyone.
But I take it for granted that in any public-facing position, the attractiveness of the candidate for hire will play a role, since it will also play a role in their job performance later.
Nope but I gave (mental) bonus points when interviewing someone for a paid internship because they had a section at the bottom of their CV that said “Interests: Daft Punk”.
I think you’d call it a culture fit.
I have never hired anyone attractive, but I did almost hire one woman that was quite attractive for my dev team and I ended up hearing a bunch of grumbling from some of the guys (all married) for choosing someone that was more qualified.
