with flacs on soulseek, who needs music subscriptions?
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Is this just music, or will conspiracy theorists podcasts and other right wingers be in high res too?
Only the ads (now compulsory on the 19.99€/month subscription).
Listen to Bro Jogan’s heavy breathing in lossless audio.
BroSMR
Well that’s one thing Apple did right, aside from a terrible algorithm. Spotify will be jacking up the prices in 3,2,1…
This is going to affect my monthly fee, isn’t it?
Incoming Spotify premium plus subscription tier. With lossless audio. And then shortly after some previously premium tier features to go plus. Then ads appear on the premium, I mean basic tier (priced at the old premium price).
Black Mirror’s Common People episode would like a word
Well, they were quite literally compiling all the worst behaviours of modern subscription services and applying it to the medical field. I guess the sad thing is that it could really happen one day.
I would say each of the things that they applied has happened on a service somewhere before (just perhaps not all on a single one). It’s fiction uncomfortably close to reality.
I absolutely agree. it was a sort of slap in the face, personally. I’ve been aware of the increasingly awful subscription model take-over of course, but seeing it presented that way and realizing how not-so-far-off that reality may be, finally put some fire behind it for me.
Incoming Spotify premium plus subscription tier
That was what they were planning to do, a new premium tier that would have lots of extras but then Apple released lossless audio as part of the standard base tier so Spotify gave up on it
To me I don’t really get it, I’ve had flac audio files in the past and I haven’t really found much difference in audio quality above 192k
Just to confirm there is no new tier for this
From today (September 10), Spotify Lossless will be rolling out to Premium users across over 50 regions including the US, UK and Australia. Spotify says the rollout is starting now and will continue though October. You’ll receive a notification alerting you when Lossless is available, but that’s not all.
Surprisingly, Spotify Lossless is free for Premium subscribers – a huge sigh of relief given that previous rumors suggested that lossless audio would come in the form of a paid add-on called ‘Music Pro’.
You have to listen to loud music on good headphones to hear any difference.
Also usually mid range is compressed OK, it’s the very highs that get distorted.
The only reason I’m still on Spotify is that I can pay like £2.20 to be in someone’s family.
But the incessant push towards podcasts bugs me. When I’m driving, I shouldn’t have to scroll through 5+ pages to finally get to the music section. That shit is dangerous.
As soon as Spotify inevitably enforces that families have to be the same household, as so many other streaming services have done before it, I’m gone.
Absolutely this, they are also really shit at giving you what you like and want to snd you to the same hack wankers talking bro politics.
Same for audiobooks, it literally never has the ones I am actively reading as jump back in options, just suggestions of pop psychology manosphere shite. I sear if I see another CEO or Jordan Peterson book… let me fijish the Mark Hoppus book goddamnit.
Their androidauto implenetation is poor
When I’m driving, I shouldn’t have to scroll through 5+ pages to finally get to the music section
Į’ve recently discovered a feature I remember never really using, Car Mode, is no longer
Previously Spotify couldn’t develop hifi because they gave hundreds of millions ofl their customers money to that anti vax joe Rogan dick instead. Get bent and die Spotify.
Canceled my sub when that happened and won’t be back.
Fist bump
he’s more than anti vax. he’s an anti-science conspiracy monger, one step short of alex jones.
spotify essentially killed grooveshark no thanks i’m still sour (I worked there)
Oh wow! I used to use grooveshark as a kid but my mom thought it was a piracy site and didn’t let me use it on her laptop. Haven’t thought about that site in a while, thanks for your work!
It was at least in part a piracy site. Everything was uploaded by users. It was a piracy site in the same sense that early music content on YouTube was. It was mostly users uploading in the early years. This is why there was a massive lawsuit against YouTube back then. And why we got content ID, etc.
This also often meant the audio compression was random, and sometimes terrible. On grooveshark and YouTube. And on YouTube the native bitrates were terrible 2006-2010 or so.
Your mom was right. But she was probally wrong about it spreading malware.
spot on
it was literally the same exact business model as youtube. the big four labels were suing youtube at the same time for the same reason as grooveshark. then google bought youtube and they “settled” - grooveshark got sued into oblivion and took a dear friend from me (suicide)
I loved Grooveshark! Why the service stopped? I always thought it was a license issue.
sued into oblivion and they didn’t want to sell out the business; more like being forced into marriage with your rapist
I was the biggest fan of Spotify as soon as they started up. I was one of the first people to get early access and was a huge supporter for years.
Buy your music, own your files, never subscribe for something you can buy instead. You’re not listening to 12 new albums a year, if you can subscribe, you can pay for the files that will be yours forever. The fact that Spotify has higher quality streaming doesn’t change anything.
You’re not listening to 12 new albums a year
Uhm…
Even if. Still pretty cheap compared to streaming where you pay and never own, and it’s always a second away from being never accessible anymore for whatever reason.
Well, I suppose downloads musn’t be that expensive. Vinyls got me like “darn, that thing pricey, innit?”, and they skip a lot, very fragile, lots of work. I like the vibe, æsthetic, and just… overall exprience, minus all the cleaning work. I’m pondering switching to CDs, honestly. Don’t look as cool as vinyls, don’t come in fancy colourful shine in the dark fancy special versions (unless I’m wrong), no big square with cover image to better see and enjoy. But you can back it into a computer, innit? Less fragile as well. And if I get the right device, I could listen to FM Radio as well. Idk
Price depends on bands. Some charge a lot, some charge “what you want to give (at least 1 moneyz though)”. The latter are the best. They don’t extort me so I pay full price willingly. Those that demand fullprice can lick my hairy…u know which 😁
Tbh, I grew up with vinyl, never liked them. But only because of convenience reasons. Also I’m so ocd that I get nervous after playing it once and knowing it somehow lost quality now due to mechanics. Since CD first came out I was hooked. Convenient, fast and I could quickly choose a song etc. Then came cd-changers… Pure convenience bliss…
But with my first HD and CDROM I simply digitized every CD I had to FLAC, and now they’re just…a backup stored safe and dry. Yes they lack in quality compared to a good vinyl. Totally. Even SACDs et al can’t really compete with analogue sound.
So long story short. Can’t beat vinyl for quality if you’re audiophile enough to hear the differences. Me, personally, I’d mostly choose (SA)CDs for ease of use. Also a ripped vinyl with high Bitrate and depth is pretty close to the original yet more comfy 😑
Aye. Bandcamp. Buy, download FLAC, put in mediamonkey, listen in cars or anywhere else. If need be, the app is also there for streaming I guess.
I prefer Navidrome
Looks decent on a quick glance. But my library is vast and very much made around mediamonkey for 20 yrs. I need my precise auto-playlists 😉
Spotify these days just acts like a great repository for pirating music with Spotify to MP3 websites, that’s all it does for me XD
Ah, feels good to know I just set up my Navidrome server and have been obtaining my entire music library for personal streaming.
It’s funny how many times people on Lemmy have accused Spotify of not paying artists fairly but for some reason there’s a large amount of ‘I pirate music and pay artists nothing’ that goes on around here and no one says a thing
Maybe “obtaining” wasn’t the right word. I’ve been buying music from iTunes and Amazon.
Who mentioned piracy?
I get the files from bandcamp and quobuz. Unlike movies, you can still legally buy music, and get actual files.
I’d rather steal music than pay a corporation that exploits artists under the guise of legality. As an artist who’s being drained by these platforms, pirate my stuff and throw me a coffee, it’s the same money as the “legal” route, but at least it feels human, not dehumanizing or humiliating.
These days I pirate the music, and if I like it I go back and buy the album directly from the band (when possible). If i really like it, I buy concert tix/merch. If it doesn’t tickle my fancy, then I don’t.
In either case, I don’t think the artist is too worried about the pennies lost from my Spotify plays.
It’s funny how many times people on Lemmy have accused Spotify of not paying artists fairly but for some reason there’s a large amount of ‘I pirate music and pay artists nothing’ that goes on around here and no one says a thing
I accept this dark part of my soul as a bruise on my personality but I still find time to love myself anyway.
Like yeah, I pirate music, but I didn’t rape anyone today so, in the grand scheme of things…
But not like people are going to notice any difference over a stream if it buffers even slightly.
Most people can’t even tell the difference between 192 and 320 kbps, they don’t care about lossless over stream. Also screw spotify.
yeah golden ears are very rare. 320 kbps of any codec is fine for me.
For tracks I’m familiar with and play often, I can usually tell the difference between 128kbps and 192kbps on an MP3. In very rare cases, with the right song and the right earphones, I can discern 192kpbs MP3 from 256kbps. But I definitely can’t tell a 256kbps MP3 from FLAC. The Wikipedia article on audio transparency says that MP3 becomes transparent on average around 240kbps.
I’ve recently started using the Opus codec. It is higher quality at lower bitrates than MP3. Opus is considered transparent on average at around 160-192kbps.
Personally, I’ve been re-encoding all my FLACs to 192kbps OPUS for storing on my smartphone where space is limited.
On a phone with a cheap DAC and probably even worse headphones (maybe even wireless), it surely doesn’t matter. For the car I transcoded my stuff to mp3 too. It doesn’t really matter. Except <192kbit 😁
But for listening with audiophile equipment at home it just won’t do for me.
I do care. I only buy FLACs. Sure, the i-dont-care-streamers are the majority, but even IF I would consider streaming I’d choose tidal over Spotify for that reason.
Hearing the difference is also affected by, obviously, the hardware used for playback+listening, the genre and also the recording.
And even if you don’t hear it, it won’t degrade when transcoding and you just get the best possible source for your moneyzs. Why settle for less.
That’s nice. I have been streaming lossless for myself for what, two decades now? I see no reason to pay spotify for anything.
Too late. Spotify sucks
I think Spotify is missing the point. People who care about Hi-Fi, care about the music, which means they care about the artists, which means they likely care about the treatment of those artists.
In my eyes the only real value Spotify adds is their discovery features.
Is that really a unique feature the discovery feature when you can access so many websites and services with similar features? What makes it stand out?
I’d even argue the contrary. Granted, I’m not subscribed to them so I only have the free tier available but I don’t think the discovery algorithm differs between the tiers. After a while the algorithm is basically stuck in a loop repeating the same tracks over and over. It’s what made me cancel right after the free trial ended. Way better to find new music on RED’s top 10 or last.fm
Yeah there are loads of great ways to find music, I normally try to follow artists I’m interest in and research into artists in similar genres and stuff like that
Lossless music doesn’t matter when it’s all AI generated crap.
Dunno what weird music you listen too but I have no ai slop in my library.
Alot of users I have have had the issue of being recommended AI slop, happy your algorithm hasn’t done that yet :)
There’s no algo in my library. I don’t stream 😉
Wooooh let’s goo!
so far…
The Genres I listen to won’t work well with that 😁
