It’s not the first time Trump has faced calls to step down since he returned to the White House in January

Donald Trump’s administration is facing another round of calls to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove the president from office in the wake of his remarks to an unprecedented assembly of the nation’s military leaders.

Trump’s Cabinet and then-Vice President Mike Pence faced similar demands in the aftermath of the January 6 attack, when a mob of the president’s supporters stormed the halls of Congress to derail the certification of an election he lost.

And it’s not the first time Trump has faced calls to step down since he returned to the White House in January. Liberal commentators and critics on social media routinely demand his Cabinet invoke the 25th Amendment.

  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
    73·
    2 months ago

    Of course he can, though it"s exceedingly unlikely that he will be, since it’s a process that would require integrity, courage and determination, all of which are virtually non-existent qualities in Washington today.

    Which is unfortunate too, since as I have cause to point out daily, the man is quite obviously a deranged lunatic.

    I really don’t think he’s ever been particularly attached to reality, but the combination of losing the 2020 election and stewing and lying for four years then lying his way to winning the 2024 election appears to have completely broken his mind. And the upshot of that is that the world in which he now lives and makes important decisions is not the real one - it’s entirely a product of his own warped perceptions, as filtered through an emotionally stunted mind that’s slaved to the task of protecting his grotesquely bloated and fragile ego and has completely lost any ability it might once have had to distinguish between reality and delusion.

    • Leather@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 months ago

      He could epicly shit his pants on stage while babbling “Wheels on the bus” and his base would call it election interference, blame the “radical left”, and send Obama the drycleaning bill.

  • Makeitstop@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is because the people who would have to support it would prefer to hide behind an erratic Trump who is prone to manipulation. His cabinet can get what they want and let Trump take any heat from the consequences. And congress sure as fuck doesn’t want to be seen as betraying Trump, nor do I expect many of them want to see a president Vance, especially in the lead up to the 28 primaries.

  • vga@sopuli.xyz
    210·
    2 months ago

    This again. No he can not. Stop wasting energy on trying to remove him in some convoluted way that has failed a dozen times before. You know the saying about trying to do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

    • LSNLDN@slrpnk.net
      32·
      2 months ago

      You always pop up on threads with the absolute worst takes. At least you’re completely alone.

  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
    13·
    2 months ago

    According to what the 25th was designed for, no, he can’t. He’s not incapacitated in the sense of being in a coma or otherwise fully non compos mentis. He’s just an asshole and a criminal in the early stages of dementia.

    The process for the 25th requires cabinet members or legislators to write a letter stating their concerns about his health rendering him unfit to carry on. If he can reply to that letter, even with a scrawled Sharpie “NO U!” then it’s game over.

    The correct processes to remove Trump are impeachment, or if the system is too corrupt for that to work, other means reserved to the citizenry.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
    20·
    2 months ago

    No. He got impeached multiple times already. Under this government, you ask whether he can be impeached AND removed!?

    There’s also more of a informational bubble around his opposition this time around fueled by predatory and even malicious social network algorithms. Trump’s health is not even remotely that bad yet, and this whole idea of pushing it now may hamper or even prevent pushing it later if and when Trump’s health truly gets worse and GQP can’t really argue otherwise. It is also a distraction to shift from all the real, horrible, and devastating reasons Trump should be removed, which way surpasses those he was impeached for during his first term, to “Oh, his health might be bad”.

  • magnetosphere@fedia.io
    212·
    2 months ago

    Even if he is removed under the 25th amendment, MAGAts would never allow themselves to forget it. To them, it would be infinitely worse than 9/11. They’d smugly remove everyone they didn’t like from office (which they’re already doing, but this would be much faster and much harsher). Everyone involved would lose their jobs, and possibly be sent to prison. Their replacements (if MAGA decides they need to be replaced, anyway) would be forced to sign a loyalty oath to President Vance.

    We Americans need to understand that our democracy has failed us. We could have stopped him when he tried to overthrow the government the first time. We could have legally prevented him from running for a second term. Too many of our leaders are cowards, though, so now we’re facing the consequences.