How come Star Wars gets a fuck ton of shitty sequels but the first TRON film in 15 years is a flop? I was waiting for this film since I was a child.
Disney didn’t know wtf to do with Tron. I thought Legacy was a great addition to the universe, but this time around it was nothing more than skipping to the end of the Marvel universe with the Boss Battle bent on world domination with flashy CGI characters. It added nothing. Plus a controversial actor like Leto might be an indication that nobody else wanted the gig for the budget or the poor writing. Couldn’t have possible chose a worse or more boring addition to the franchise. Ruined it, IMO, and I have been a Tron fan since forever.
Legacy was good and a fine launching pad for squeals. They should have used Tron: The Next Day as a starting point for any addition. It’s not as well known, but The Next Day was a bonus added to the physical release of Legacy to pitch the next movie.
I lost all interest in this movie when they announced he was in it. He fucking sucks.
Everything I’ve read says the soundtrack is good so we get that I guess?
I’ll watch it eventually for the soundtrack, but Jared gives me the creeps.
It’s not always Jared Leto’s fault when his movies bomb. Easy scapegoat for the everyone else involved, fron the writer to director to producer, to just blame him and pretend no one else fucked it up.
Given some of the bad dialogue (e.g., Ares talking about why he likes Depeche Mode), my impression is that Jared Leto used his role as producer to push the production in certain directions that appealed to his personal preferences. I went in wanting to like the movie (I love Tron: Legacy and NIN so I was definitely excited by certain aspects of the movie), but the movie felt too much like a Leto vanity project. So yeah, I think that, in this case, it’s fair to blame Leto for the movie’s failure, even though, like you say, there were failures across the board, from many people involved.
Seeing how much of an egomaniac the dude is, and straight up like psycho levels of self absorbed, this rings true to me as well. When I saw the poster in theaters I was beside myself as I LOVED Legacy, but the second In started to see the posters with Leto I noped the fuck out. I still had lingering hope, but the lashback from opening week makes it apparent I should wait to stream it.
Shit writing was to blame. Leto may be a plank of wood, but its the writing. Disney has been repeatedly hiring based on anything but merit for a long time, and this is the latest result of it. I mean, for the big return for Star Wars to big screen was supposed to be a Rey movie. And they choose a woman with zero, ZERO, feature experience. Never mind big hollywood tent pole experience.
In the case of Tron Arse, they went with a writer whose only claim to fame is the run of the mill Terminal List, and someone else who has mostly shorts in their resume. And as for the director, they went with the guy who directed the worst pirates movie and the Maleficent sequel. And thats it.
Where are all the big talents? Why does almost everything Disney do look very pretty, but little else? The problem with Disney, is its higher ups who keep on making stupid choice after stupid choice. If youre spending a couple of hundred million on a movie, maybe throw some of that money at established genre writers, ffs. Stop making slop, and thinking the fact it looks and sounds pretty is going to do the heavy lifting. Not everything can have the luck of a shitty dinosaur movie…
Yes.
Disney is to blame for making this crap and screwing an entire legacy for A quick buck.
Not that they got a quick buck out of it.
Honestly Disney has been doing some really dumb things the last 10 years or so. They hardly even score hits with Star Wars these days.
This just looked sooooo bad lol I cant even imagine getting my ass up, going to the theater, and shelling out $40 for tickets and a popcorn to sit through it. Also I cant fucking stand jared leto and I really cant fathom why they keep putting him in things when there is a pretty good talent pool out there
Mostly yes.
I might stream the soundtrack someday, but I’m just not going to pay to see Jared Leto sleepwalk through another performance…
The film was actually pretty good. I get not liking Jared Leto but he isn’t enough to ruin a film for me. Then again, I waited for a franchise revival since I was a kid and now that’s dead and done.
Let’s hope they do another one in another 15 years. I think that’s a good cadence for something like Tron (which was in my top 3 favorite movies as a kid). We don’t need to milk the cow dry.
My best friend was looking forward to the movie, until I asked him if Leto being Ares would change his opinion. He was no longer interested from that moment.
Jared Leto signed on in 2017. At the time, it made sense. It’s Disney’s fault for letting production stall for so long.
Jared Leto was in active controversy the near entire time. The only reason it made sense to do, is because it was never going to remove him from the role.
Same with me. I somehow didn’t register him in the teaser. As soon as the second trailer came out and I saw him, I concluded I won’t even pirate this one.
By the way, the NIN soundtrack is not good either. Quake’s is much better.
Core memory unlocked
I wish more bands would do the soundtracks to games, if only to see their logo on ammo pickups :/
As a NIN fan, it pains me to say you’re right. Having only heard it in the movie and not standalone, I’d say this was basically NIN’s “paint by numbers” soundtrack. Worse, it actually detracted from some scenes (somewhat specifically, the tracks with vocals).
Of the 19 soundtracks I have by Trent Reznor (& Atticus Ross), I’d probably place this somewhere in the vicinity of #15 (I’d need to give them all a proper listen first though; I don’t really have a current ranking for them. Other than Quake probably being #1.)
I waited for a franchise revival since I was a kid and now that’s dead and done.
I felt the same way after Tron Legacy. Give it like 15 years and we might get a 3rd soft reboot.
I know everyone is focused on Leto but bloody hell, the film news sites all seem to be jumping on the lets bash Tron bandwagon in the last few days.
TIL we all hate Jared Leto now.
He’s been despised for many years now
All my homies hate Jared Leto.
I myself was hyped until I saw Jared Leto, i just don’t wanna see him in anything
Same for me. I didn’t see 2, but this one looked good until I saw Leto was in it, then it was a hard no
Disney pulls the plug on Tron after it bombs at the box office.
Disney puts future Tron films on hold after Legacy disappoints.
Disney cancels Tron Uprising after one season due to poor viewership.
Disney cancels Tron 4 after Ares underperforms…
I’m pretty sure the problem is Disney.
Or Tron itself. It’s also named in every sentence of yours…
It’s the same problem that every mid 80’s zeitgeist based resurrected IP faces:
The zeitgeist the movie is based on has been dead for at least 30 years.
For Tron, personal computers aren’t new anymore. The concept of a digital city is so much less exciting once you’ve lived with the internet for 20 years and heard mark Zuckerberg wank endlessly about the “metaverse.”
I think audiences were ready for visiting the virtual world in 2010. Smart phones were new and cool and not sinister yet, it was possible to feel hopeful for the internet…15 years later, not so much.
The concept of Tron,is a good one. And the first movie, while not perfect, is pretty good. Theres enough there, that Disney could have created its very own Star Wars franchise. Instead they bought Star Wars, and gave it the Tron treatment to make sure that died as well.
The problem is very much Disney. With Marvel, they got the right creatives together to make mostly solid movies that people liked. Over the past 5 years, they have pissed all that away with being Disney things. And a few months ago, I read that they were looking for another ip to buy so they could bring the gen Z male audience back… Which is telling as fuck, when they have Marvel and Star Wars, but dont know how to make them appeal to the younger male audience so much that they need to buy another IP.
Instead they bought Star Wars, and gave it the Tron treatment to make sure that died as well.
actually, disney’s SW was going to be John Carter and they killed it in favor of SW.
Which is telling as fuck, when they have Marvel and Star Wars, but dont know how to make them appeal to the younger male audience so much that they need to buy another IP.
Well, disney never knew how to handle SW at any point. They had luck with The Mandalorian S01 and with Rogue One, and Rebels, but that’s it… they are a girls/family company and that’s it. Pixar was other thing but now they are Pixaren’t after disney bought them.
actually, disney’s SW was going to be John Carter and they killed it in favor of SW.
They killed it when they took off the FROM MARS part!
John Carter. Who the fuck is John Carter?!
John Carter FROM MARS! Ooohhh, it’s a sci-fi. I’m in!
Good script, good acting, good source material, good director that was really into the source material, shit marketing.
The original Tron apparently actually made decent money (which is weird because everyone just assumed it bombed?)
Legacy made $410m on a $170m budget.
The problem is legitimately Disney and Leto…
And also Legacy was in 2010 so what exactly is happening here? You can’t turn this into some kind of decades-long franchise with a doofus like Leto as the star, it’s a “well the last one was kind of fun” movie you can’t have a sex pest cultist as your face while trying to rake in casual nostalgia cash.
The original Tron was made on a $17 million budget and made $50 million at the box office in 1982. In 1980, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back was made on a budget of $30 million and earned $550 million.
In 2010, Disney wanted their own Star Wars, so they tried making another Tron flick. Maybe they could make it stick. It made $410 million on a $170 million budget. Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith had a $113 million budget and made $903 million.
Disney has since bought and run Star Wars into the ground. Meanwhile Tron: Ares has been in production hell since 2017. And for the first time, a Tron movie is an outright failure.
I liked Tron and Tron Legacy (haven’t watched Ares), but Disney has spent the last decade plus killing good franchises with shitty scripts, so I’m leaning more towards Disney being the problem.
Leto certainly didn’t help, but historically this is how this is supposed to go.
I haven’t seen it yet, but have heard the plot wasn’t good either. So while he didn’t help, many films have shown even having great actors can’t rescue a bad movie. He’s just the rotting cherry on top of the melted sundae.
I saw it. Honestly it was just ok. Nothing to write home about. The soundtrack is pretty decent if you like NIN. Leto is robotic enough to pull off being a just awakened AI. The plot was so-so. I really, really liked Athena and if they do another Tron I hope she comes back but doubtful that will happen. There were some cool fight scenes and new tech. I wish more of the movie was set on the Grid instead of IRL.
IMHO watch a telesync or wait until it’s streaming.
Creativity at disney is moribund and nothing can fix it without getting rid of the old dead growth. Get rid of iger and similar execs like kennedy. They degrade any project. They dont love the products they produce. I remember one time kennedy commenting on star wars that there wasn’t enough source material. Her problem was she would have to pay for it and thinks the writers are not important. That kind of weak thinking is stagnating disney. It will continue until these fossils are gone.
they also pump out so much low-quality garbage too, rather then focusing on 1-3 IP movies , but streaming cost means it demands more content each year.
