The company destroying YOUR White House without YOUR permission is Aceco LLC. Vote with your dollars people: let’s make sure this company never gets any business ever again and goes under.
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Run by a republican donor, I bet. And whoever builds the new structure will also be one.
With kickbacks to Donald, of course.
Wikipedia has an entire list of corporate donors for the new ballroom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Wing#2025_demolition
I don’t see the list. Just that this company is the contractor for the new Epstein Ballroom.
The list is actually on this Wikipedia page
Soo…crypto scams and scammers, Amazon, Comcast, and palantir. just some of the worst folks around.
Your tax dollars at work. The in-group doesn’t pay taxes.
If they get paid.
They’re getting paid by the government, not trump personally - I’m assuming they’ll get paid much more than the job is actually worth, possibly as payment for some previous or future job for trump. There will be some angle to every contact issued for the whole project.
Yeah, it’ll look just great when it’s done though. Really fit in with the aesthetic.
I have this strong mental image of MAGAts hearing about this and hiring these guys to knock down the houses they live in to own the libs. I mean they already voted in a rapist conman who was guaranteed to sink the economy to do the same, I’m wondering if there is any limit to the masochism they will indulge in to hurt other people.
I don’t know if liberaldom could recover from being owned so completely!
Why protesting against the company? Protest against the president who ordered such a thing
We could protest against both.
This is the same Google that renamed “The Gulf of Mexico” to “The Gulf of America” in all their maps just to suck up to Trump. Trump couldn’t get away with half the sh*t he does if he didn’t have these companies constantly blowing him.
You are right
Por que no los dos?
What???
Of course you protest against people collaborating with fascists. Next you say people shouldnt protest against ICE because they are just following the presidents orders…
At what level do you collaborate with fascists? ICE carries out unlawful orders with extreme brutality and should be protested against. A construction company is just a construction company. At this point let’s list all the companies working for any federal agency, including cleaning services and gardening because they collaborate with fascists. Come on.
“I’m not at fault, all I did was build Auschwitz!” Yes this is taken to absurdity, but the point is still there. You can’t do bad things and then expect not to be held to account for those decisions, just because it was a job you were getting paid for.
Again, one is building a concentration camp, another is restyling the WH with questionable decision styles.
Yeah no fuck that. Nobody forced them to take the contract
Yes. Unironically boycott anyone that directly does Trumps bidding. Cleaning the building is something that people were already doing before the Trump regime. Wrecking the white house is NOT something that was done before and is a change directly ordered by Trump.
It is a construction company, working on a building. This is not even remotely comparable.
Its just a construction company, working for a guy that wants to build shower rooms with gas canisters and ovens that fit bodies…
The biggest most beautiful shower rooms you have ever seen …
[shudders, cries]
Both are just workers that are getting paid for a job that was ordered.
Even worse than ICE, private capital has direct gain (profit) from this.
Getting paid to fix a building and getting paid to murder someone are not even remotely comparable things. Unless “can get stuff with other stuff” is the level we go to, at which point any argument is useless to begin with. This is like someone talking about trees = bad because someone else said the order to murder someone. (Both are using language to convey information, there is no deeper connection)
That is way the response OP posted isn’t even remotely comparable to the response if this demolition crew would be executing ICE detainees.
At every point in your life you choose who & what to support.
I think bitching about where you get your money is a very valid point overall.
Their site currently claims to be under construction. Or have they been demolished?!
Next their webshite will be a room full of balls (I assume that’s what is getting erect over the rose garden?).
Solar panels? Nope!
Pile of rubble? Yeah!
I mean, why? They accepted a government contract, they didn’t do anything wrong.
There were no proper authorities issued to demolish the WH. The agencies that do those authorities, weren’t even consulted. This is an illegal, midnight-style demolition, and I guarantee you that the demo company does NOT have the correct permits. If Donny 2 Inches issued the order, it is an ILLEGAL one, and obeying illegal orders (paying attention, ICE cunts ?) is no excuse in a court of law.
While I agree with you, every permit giving agency would have to be under the executive branch and thereby deemed reporting to the president according to the supreme Court rulings at this point. He’s a king in all but name. As soon as he decided to “lift” the sanctions on Russia by simply ordering/dissolving the entities that were supposed to upkeep the laws made by the legislature, he should have been impeached by the house, and removed by the Senate. Yet the Senate would not vote to, so everything he does on federal land (a lot of D.C. because Republicans refused to allow it to be a state) has no one to argue his actions oppose the laws of another body, and thereby have near no protections against his actions.
I fully expect they’re buddies with Trump somewhere high up or they wouldn’t have been given the contract.
IG Farben agreed to supply canned pesticide to the Nazis. It was just a government contract too. And guess what: they found out it was a poor business decision after the war.
And Amazon provides services for government websites through AWS, are you thinking everyone is going to abandon every product that uses AWS as well? Or are we just targeting low hanging fruit?
To be entirely clear, that would be ideal. AWS is far too powerful for anyone’s good
are you thinking everyone is going to abandon
everyone? no. someone? yes.
The government is a small part of Amazon’s giant business and most of it is just continuing on from before the government went fascist. This company is making a significant portion of their work destroying the fucking White House under a shady plan. There’s a reason this single act is getting more attention than Amazon hosting government servers.
I think it’s a lot more accurate to say these companies were enabling it rather than some random llc that bid on the contract. It would make more sense to stop using all of their services/products.
" dinner for potential donors held at the White House on 15 October included senior executives from prominent US companies including Blackstone, OpenAI, Microsoft, Coinbase, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, Amazon and Google.
Also present was Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets NFL team, and Shari and Edward Glazer, who, together with their siblings, own both the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Manchester United.
A pledge form seen by CBS News, the BBC’s US partner, suggested that donors could be eligible for “recognition” for their contributions. While plans are still being finalised, that recognition could potentially take the form of names etched into the structure."
A principled construction firm does not destroy national landmarks. This isn’t a blind contract, they knew what they’d be doing. I really don’t know why you’re going so hard for them. It’s not that complicated.
Are you asking if we should boycott every company doing business with (or bending the knee to) the fascists in D.C.? Then yes, we absolutely should. Target, T-Mobile, Palantir, Apple, Amazon. Fuck them all for selling out the American people.
I doubt we could find many sites that don’t have some ties/business with the U.S. government. I assume most of Lemmy has ties to AWS or Cloudflare who both support government sites. Lemmy.world uses Cloudflare.
My point was trying to get some random llc shutdown doesn’t do anything. All that will happen is people looking down at others while really supporting much larger bigger-issue companies.
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It’s not about purity testing; it’s about harm reduction. I’ll give you an example. T-Mobile is directly collaborating with both Trump (via Trump Mobile, which runs on T-Mobile’s network) and Elon Musk (via a T-Mobile/Starlink partnership). That’s pretty fucking bad from a fascist collaboration perspective. Are Verizon and AT&T any better? A little. They still donated to Trump’s inauguration, but at least they’re not running mobile networks for him. (EDIT: Or paying for his fucking ballroom.) So would I encourage everyone to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T or Verizon, even if that’s not a perfect solution? Absolutely.
I just think it’s a really specious argument that “everything we buy is connected to the U.S. government and therefore no purchase is better or worse than any other purchase.” That just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
As for putting pressure on the construction company tearing down the east wing of the white house… I dunno, that seems like fair game to me. We can leave negative reviews for them while also cancelling Amazon Prime.
The ones that we viably can, sure. That might change depending on the person, and their needs.
Totally. But I’d submit to you that these aren’t normal times where we can just go about our business ignoring politics and using whatever products/services happen to be convenient. Unless each of us individually fights back against the fascists by doing our darnedest to avoid products and services that fund fascist collaborators, we are complicit. Put another way: It is in our power to bring down this regime, and one of the biggest levers we have for doing that is changing our buying habits.
IBM just supplied some accounting machines to Weinmar Germany (they knew what they were counting).
Only 13 of IG Farben received prison terms, from 1.5 to 8 years, then received senior positions on the successor companies after.
Maybe the same outcome of the construction workers on the Deathstar II?
i don’t think that people hire such companies based on google reviews
as did someone building concentration camps. you have free will to accept or don’t accept any contract and live with consequences.
but to put your mind at ease - i am pretty sure that customers of such companies don’t hire them based on google reviews, so don’t worry, the demolition company is probably safe.
It’s a ball room, not a concentration camp. Critizing the companies who take contracts for core civic or whomever agreed to build that prison in Florida to lock up immigrants would make sense, but this just seems dumb to me.
At the absolute least, building a grand ballroom in the middle of a government shutdown while you’re depriving people of wages and healthcare is not a good look. And collaborating with the wannabe dictator doing this, even if it’s just to make them look good and not to actually kill or disappear people, is kind of shitty too. I think it’s fair game to go after such companies; they’re part of the support network keeping the regime in power.
If Hitler had survived long enough to see his (and Albert Speer’s) vision of Berlin fulfilled, would you be ok with the contractors who decided to work on those projects?
Google is actively funding the project, and we go to Google services to help fund Google to “rebel” against this 1 LLC, even ignoring the other complany who bid on the contract. I get why people think they should boycott them, but no one here will be contracting this company for anything… so why not boycott Google, Microsoft, and Amazon who are actively enabling this regime. (All paying money towards this ball room being built)
People are. You can boycott more than one thing at a time.
People here compare this to providing poison to murder people. Simply deranged.
Is is amazing how easy it is to locate people who are complete moral vacuums. You are a shit person.
This is how “the left” can not win. Antagonizing the most niche, far away thing and then saving things like that when someone disagrees.
Your idea of “winning” is to sell your soul, and be inhuman.
I hope ppl would do more in that case than to just simply write bad reviews.
While i disagree, i’m shocked how many other people disagree too, but bever when they invade other countries, because these vrave war criminals never have achoice and just do what they’re told.
“I mean why? They were just following orders, they didn’t do anything wrong”
Following illegal orders is the thing they did wrong, Cletus.
Hahaha you should leave a review saying something to that effect.
When you accept a government contract from a fascist government then you did something wrong.
Aside from the obvious nazi collaboration points I think that any person. Or any company. Or any thing, entity, etc etc that works for, or with, the orange rapist should not only get boycotted at the very minimum. But also to be ridiculed and investigated with a fine toothed comb.
The tactic should be to find out what other dodgy shit they are doing and bring them down in every and any way possible.Why go to these extremes, you may ask. Simple, if the kiddie fiddling conman had had this treatment in the 80s and 90s then he’d not be able to get away with his shit now, and none of this would be happening now.
With the huge added bonus of numerous women and kids not being sexually assaulted and raped over those years.When it comes to investigating Donvict Drumpf, his actions, and his collaborators then the question isn’t why, it’s why not.
I wonder if Trump will just stiff them like he did when he was in real estate.
I just can’t imagine him being ok with paying contractors for work.
It’s not his money.
But it could be if it just “accidentally” disappeared.
He’s paying them with exposure
If he’s gotten away with stiffing contractors he’s gotta stiff demolition people. What are they gonna do? Rebuild it? Forclose the rubble?
Two different contracts. Draw out the process for the demo people, and get the builders to work while that’s happening.
Stiff them both when the work is complete.
Smart. Good genes.
Oh, Trump will pay them, with donations from his rich pals and most likely public money. Wherever the money comes from, it won’t be from his pocket.
You don’t really believe he’ll put a cent of his own money into that boondoggle do you?
I doubt it. Every dollar he pays is one he can’t keep.
company name change incoming
Definitely. It’s just a LLC, they’ll dissolve it and start another once they finish.
Lib discourse is so wild.
Let’s be clear: taking action like boycotts or whatever against companies collaborating with fascists is 100% appropriate and valid. But there’s so many companies that are complicit in much worse ways than bulldozing the White House. Why should I even give a shit about the White House? How about instead we pressure corporations that are involved in manufacturing weapons and bombs for the regime? Or companies that provide it with data, surveillance, and technical support? You know, the companies that give the admistration material power over people?
By all means, knock yourself out doing this, I’m just confused why everyone is so invested in the White House. But if I had to guess, I’d say it’s because it’s a way of reaffirming loyalty to the state while criticizing it, making the criticism safely toothless. Me, I’d just say that all he did was save us the trouble of knocking it down ourselves.
Libs dont have a coherent moral or political worldview. They are preoccupied with aesthetics and decorum. It is why the libs will not be involved in material change for the better. They simply lack the imagination or will.
EDIT: I worry that people are taking that I am on the side of the Trump admin. I am to the left of the democrats and that is the basis for my disappointment and criticism.
What gets me is that the side pearl-clutching over the White House is arguably more correct than the side pearl-clutching over the demolition company. But, like, how are those the two sides lmao
They should never be allowed to work in the industry again.
When the regime falls, it is my hope that they and companies like them are put in front of a judge to explain why they agreed to help the fascists destroy the nation and its treasures.
Lol that was a good laugh! Thinking capitalists will punish their own. Peter Thiel raking in government contracts after admitting openly he is hostile to the state and wants to destroy America shows you how fucked we are.
They won’t. I don’t think any corporation was ever punished for helping the Nazis. Whether they are fuel and energy providers or information technology providers or bankers. The Swiss absolutely hid a shitload of money for the Nazis and no Swiss banker ever got in trouble (the legendary privacy policies of the Swiss banking system were forged during WW2). Without IBM’s punchcard readers and technology the holocaust would not have been nearly as effective. That technology allowed them to catalog and document where their would-be victims were and how many and allowed them to moved to the camps or shot on sight.
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