We should give them enough gear to substantially weaken our own military.
The Dems need to learn to play dirty. Biden needs to de-fang his own office as much as possible in the next 2 months. And as official acts, he can do it with the Court’s blessing.
Stop taking the high road and burn the fucking White House down before Trump can take it back.
Gift the entirety of military resources not stationed in CONUS to NATO allies. If the plan was to try to strong-arm our allies for protection, literally take the ammo away.
Those NATO allies (Poland) don’t even intercept Russian missiles when they enter Polish air space. Belarus has a better track record of shooting down Russian drones.
Because they’ve been told by the US they’re not allowed to use their US supplied arms to do so. They’ve been asking for permission for at least a year. Refer also constraints placed on Ukraine
Polish deputy prime minister says otherwise:
By asking Poland to shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelensky is attempting to get Warsaw involved in the war, Polish Deputy Prime Minister Krzysztof Gawkowski said in an interview with Radio ZET on Nov. 4. https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-wants-to-drag-poland-into-war-with-russia-polish-deputy-pm-claims/
It’s a choice by the Polish.
Hmm thanks for that, I read some very different messaging over the last year. I’ll try to dig it out
There is also the issue of
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Batteries protecting major cities.
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Munitions being limited.
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What can be shot down depends on the altitude. See point 1.
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And as official acts, he can do it with the Court’s blessing.
You forget, the courts only would use that logic to help republicans and hinder democrats.
Precedent has no meaning to these fucks.
Well, he’s also like 4 heartbeats from death. Might as well go out with a bang.
Both sides of this monopolized 2-party system are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich.
When will average Joe wake up and realize this? There is no fixing this diseased system from the inside and hoping and wishing to elect a “good guy” for once, when they’re all corrupt puppets.
Americans need to cowboy the fuck up and take their country back from a tyrannical death-cult, fascist government. Or sit back and lose everything.
“First they came …”
Prepare a last minute assassination plan on Putin. Who else can do it if not the self described “greatest nation in the world”.
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The true mask off over the past few months, honestly. They’re not even trying to not look like Tankies anymore.
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Is Ruscist or Vatnik less offensive for you?
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Alright, fascism apologist. Ruscist it is then.
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Remember just four years ago when you pretended Trump was a horrible monster for assassinating Sulemani
Can’t say I do
You when you heard that someone tried to assassinate Adolf Hitler.
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After allied forces bombed the country to shits, yeah. Same should be done to Russia. Denazification.
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Now please stop bothering me
You’re the one replying to my comments you weirdo.
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Show me where I claim to be a hitman.
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What mask? Everybody wants Putin dead.
What took them so fucking long?
why didn’t we do this before
It’s still the same as before and nothing on the level USA does for Israel where they happily intercept rockets for that rich, well armed count with an installed iron dome air defense.
Still no US air raids on Donbas and Crimea and such.
Maybe democrats expected a negative effect on the ballots because of it. Macron did something similar while running against le pen on last year? and released the package as soon as the ellection was settled
Because the military-industrial complex needed to slow-drip the weapons to make the war last as long as possible.
Until today, I’ve been thoroughly in favor of supporting Ukraine. Since Ukraine isn’t going to get any support from the next administration, rushing out a final aid package (if the current administration can even manage that) only seems like it will briefly delay Russia’s slow victory.
I’d like to be shown that I’m wrong. Please comment if you have an outlook that’s more positive than mine.
There is a tremendous amount of mostly empty Ukrainian land left. If Russia wants it all, their casualties will end in the millions, even without additional US aid. We’re not the only suppliers, after all.
Well, we don’t actually know that the next administration won’t support them any. We assume they won’t because of Trump’s attitude to Ukraine, but the republicans have been somewhat divided over the issue, and Trump just does whatever he randomly feels like, and sending more military aid does benefit the MIC that can pay politicians, so it possible, if unlikely, that they’d get some support from them. There’s also the possibility of support from Europe or elsewhere in the world. Finally, while a Ukrainian loss without foreign support seems quite likely, the pace of Russia’s advances and resource expendature are such that a win for them is no longer likely to be “annex Ukraine or make it a puppet rump state”, but more “take a strip of land close to the current occupation line”, in which case a stronger Ukraine has a better negotiating position and so may be able to give up less.
With Trump supporting Russia will be a fast victory.
Next aid will be for Russia.
Trump already helped Putin with COVID tests, why not give full support, no one can stop him nowMaybe the EU gets its shit together… this could be for the good on the long run
Why? Spend the money here.
Fucking idiot. The replacement weapons will be made here and paid to companies here
Bro he is on crack & opium. Also known als copium 😂 He doesn’t even now what his Point was to begin with 😂
We don’t need to give money to conservative owned weapon manufacturers.
Good lord you’re stupid.
You want war?
Then buy a weapons plant
Or, don’t spend money on weapons. I guess now that trump won, we don’t have to pretend to be nonviolent eh?
Were you dropped on your head as a baby or something?
Not as hard as you were.
What’s your opinion about lend lease on WW2?
You think they are venmoing Ukraine?
The aid is for weapons delivery via 2 paths:
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Write off appropriation and backfill of mothballed stock we already needed to rotate out or destroy, due to shelf life
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Net new construction of weapons for immediate delivery to Ukraine. That construction happens in the US and us partner nations, and provides the US valuable use Intel as a cherry on top.
It’s valuable spending either way.
There are also direct money transfers and guarantees for loans and other financial instruments.
As for mothballed weapons, it’s often cheaper to deliver them to Ukraine than to dispose of them.
That, along with Russia not congratulating Trump are the only things giving me some hope Trump might pivot with the right push. “We made an amazing deal, Ukraine will cheaply dispose of our old weapons and punish those filthy ungrateful Russians” would be very much on brand for Trump if you insert a bunch of rambling in the middle.
I do not think they use Venmo.
Bro they do. Just today I got a message from Zelensky asking me to send him $500 for a tank ticket to Donetsk. Being a patriot I am, I obviously did my part.
Haha. Sorry, I’m still trying to get my Nigerian prince.
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Jesus fucking Christ, do you think we are shipping crates of Benjamins to Ukraine?
Are you really this fucking stupid? Clearly the majority of people in the United States are the dumbest motherfuckers alive, so I just need clarification.
That money is spent here. The money gets pumped into the US economy.
We get rid of ancient military equipment, Ukraine gets a boost, and the US economy gets billions of dollars pumped into it
Please educated one tell us how many schools do the weapon manufacturers that get these checks build?
Mmm no, I’m aware they don’t send money. I certainly never said that. And by spend, I mean on the people, not giving it to weapons manufacturers who definitely aren’t putting that money back into the economy.
That’s not how it works bub.
How what works?
