When the poor create an angry mob and kill the rich, it’s called justice
They only call it “class warfare” when poor people fight back.
“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” - Warren Buffett
A rich man who’s actually talented should have no problem with higher taxes, because everyone will be better off, and he has faith in his ability to earn it back.
Careful there, pal, somebody might mistake you for trying to fix the system instead of tearing it down.
You are so up your own ass
We are told that the last time widespread protests yielded positive results, we achieved a perfectly just society, and to protest any more is going too far.
Even if we did achieve a perfectly just society, they’ve spent decades eroding worker’s rights and exploiting us.
Also the protests are watered down. Rosa Parks just had a rough day and was too tired to stand up? No, she was educated in political issues and involved in organizing and did what she did very deliberately. She never held a speech because of patriarchal structures within the civil rights movement.
TL;DR Everyone knows MLK had a dream but no one know what it was.
When the poor take on the rich it’s called a revolution and I think we need one right now.
I kind of don’t like when we label random stuff as capitalism, because it’s the same language Tankies and other Fake Communists use. Capitalism can and should be done without wealth concentration, extortion, or taking advantage of vulnerable people.
Wealth concentration is the point of capitalism. Exploiting labor so those at the top can become wealthier is the design.
Wealth concentration is the result of unregulated capitalism.
The point of capitalism is the freedom to make whatever you want in however much amount because people demonstably can’t otherwise competently work together for 5 minutes to figure out how everything should be done to provide for everyone. Everytime somebody has tried to get rid of it, it ended with pointless death and suffering, and often led to autocracy.
Capitalism has nothing to do with freedom to make whatever you want. I don’t know who told you that but it is absolutely 1,000% not true. Capitalism is those with the most Capital controlling the means of production. That’s it that’s literally it. You can see how that inherently leads to exploitation.
By the way capitalism is supposed to be unregulated. We have to regulate it because it’s such a abysmally broken and self-destructive system. So saying wealth concentration is the result of unregulated capitalism is just admitting that capitalism results in wealth concentration. Your first sentence there basically concedes your argument. Regulation by the way which is inherently self-defeating because it can’t fix the very essence of the problem.
Merriam Webster Dictionary:
capitalism
nounan economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
You’re arguing with the dictionary.
Damn, I wonder why that’d keep happening. It’s almost like there is some fundamental element in a capitalist system that makes reform impossible. Fuck eh, what do you do to resolve the inherent brutalities of such a system? If only there was some way to identify those fundamental elements through like, the work of thinking about it really deeply with other people who want to end that system. That sucks though because obviously people are just bad and we should just keep doing this because the political compass memes told me that history is super simple actually.
Empower democracy > the democratic government hold people accountable and redistributes wealth to provide a minimum standard of living for all > problem solved permanently.
Empower democracy > the Democratic government hold people accountable and redistribute wealth > get fucking couped by the USA like Salvador Allende, Gaddafi or Mosaddeq, or literally bombed until millions of your citizens die like in Vietnam.
At least you had the balls to drop the flimsy venier that this was about means of production and admit it’s a fucking East V. West Tankie Propoganda.
“Propaganda” is when you mention the democratic regimes toppled by the USA?
Oh of course, we just gotta empower democracy and everything will be fine. Why didn’t anyone else ever think of that? How did you access such remarkable knowledge?
Because a large enough number of people have been convinced not to try it, fucking it up for the rest of us.
Including you. You don’t even realize what you’re saying.
. . . The rich robbing the poor is literally capitalism?
Capitalism is a pyramid scheme at its core, it relies on peoples as the bottom losing out so those at the top can profit.
Capitalism means a system of creation of goods and services in a market filled with individuals who choose what and how much to produce, with a focus on the existence of private property both physical and intellectual.
Which is to say, literally every modern nation for hundreds of years.
Capitalism relies on extraction of resources be that material, human, or social. For someone to make a profit, someone else must make a loss in one of those fields - usually all 3 at once.
Yes it is the system we have been running for a few hundred years. Completely unrelated but in the last few hundred years something no one can figure out happened and now the majority of our species and most other life on Earth is going to die due to global warming.
For someone to make a profit, someone else must make a loss in one of those fields - usually all 3 at once.
Well idk about you, but I pretty frequently make homemade soaps and breads from scratch and no pe0ople or animals were harmed at any point. The people who harvested the ingredients profited and the people who purchase from me are gaining more value than they lose. I personally suffer no loss, I enjoy doing it and I even get paid for it on top of that.
So your presumption that there “must be a loss” is stupid and pointless. Satisfaction is constantly created and consumed, always has been and always will be no matter what system you’re in.
Well idk about you, but I pretty frequently make homemade soaps and breads from scratch and no pe0ople or animals were harmed at any point
Because that doesn’t describe capitalism. The capitalist mode of production involves a business owner (capitalist) who owns the capital, and a worker who doesn’t own capital. The capital-less worker enters a “free” employment contract with the capitalist, in which the worker sells his labour time as a commodity to the capitalist to put the capital to work, in exchange for a wage lower than the total value of goods/services produced, NAD those goods/services are later sold in a free market.
What you’re describing is manufacture, not capitalism, and it was abundant in pre-capitalist societies in which a lot of the total consumption didnt come from purchases in a market.
CApiTaLism iS WHEn uh um SlAVeRy
I’m not going to give people the time when they’re arguing with dictionaries. I live in a capitalism, I participate in a free market, I set the value of my own labor the same as everyone else.
I didn’t say the word slavery at any point, I specifically talked about “free” contracts. It’s the literal definition of capitalism, I haven’t made judgment or given an opinion.
I set the value of my own labor
No, you don’t. Your wages are limited upwards by the total productivity, and downwards by the reserve army of labor. This is well studied and measured, and the only way to fight it within capitalism collectively and meaningfully is through artificial labour scarcity, i.e. unionization
The people who harvested the ingredients profited and the people who purchase from me are gaining more value than they lose.
Oh yeah, agricultural workers across the world are well known for profiting off of capitalism.
You are being so deliberately obtuse, it’s pretty sad how invested you are in defending such a system.
Unless the agriculture relies on slave labor like private prisons or authoritarian nations, yeah, they do profit. Otherwise, why would they do it? It’s not hard to not buy goods from North Korea or the FSIN, if anything I feel like you’d have to jump through hoops in order to do that.
Please stop being so dishonest.
Capitalism doesn’t exist without wealth concentration, extortion or taking advantage. They are features, not bugs.
Capitalism does exist without wealth concentration
Clearly a typo, but I agree 100% it can be done, quite easily even.
