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A very large blender and a single water truck.
Tienanmen-core
I’m afraid I don’t understand your comment, my good sir. Nothing has ever happened in Tiananmen. Certainly not in 1989.
Commuter smoke. Don’t breathe this.
or blended and sent down a tube! then you get reconstituted into a person at the other end of the pipe.
who needs the train.
*reconstitution methods tbd
Isn’t this pretty much how the teleportation tech in Star Trek works?
their version is a bit less moist
Okay, but if you look carefully at the top of the inverted pyramid, you’ll notice that there are no homeless people allowed to participate.
Also, the bottom has no less than six trees which is Woke.
The whole thing stinks of socialism.
Like we should, idk, pool our resources to “improve” our lives or something…
Nah, I’d rather burn prehistoric forests in my trukk because I’m so free.
America, fuck yeah
“Now I’m gonna go roll coal just to own the libz”
Infographic not to scale (for some reason)
That pisses me of too. Especially since cars are even worse than the infographic makes it look like.
Metros are good for extremely heavy lines and lrt/tram/whatever other similar form of transit is good for convenience and accessibility(that even well built cities often ignore…) but the king is still bikes in my opinion. I live in a city of 150k so its quite a bit smaller than most places where youd have more mass oriented transit but its still interesting to see that the fastest path to city center is with bike. Not bus, not train(except if you live right next to it) and not car.
Who is gonna get the metro to pull my fishing boat out of the water?
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I was gonna say people need to sacrifice for the greater common good but then I realized what community this was and knew people were on my same wavelength.
Now do it with lifted pickup trucks assuming 1.25 seating capacity use
What kind of subway would that be? Larger than I thought at first and with more than one or two train cars.
Paris’s RER A is an extreme example, with 10-car double-deck trains moving 2,600 people, ~30 trains per hour. More than a million daily journeys.
The Victoria line is a more frequency-heavy system, with 8-car single deck trains at 1100 passengers at 36tph, or 40k PPHPD.
Fully underground systems usually have shorter trains due to the constraints and costs of building longer underground platforms.
The problem with mass transit is that each person can’t go directly to the doorstep of each specific place they need to be. And they wouldn’t be able to haul a whole lot of stuff like a week’s worth of groceries & dog in a kennel on its way to/from veterinarian appt, & 5 children & lumber from Home Depot.
Yeah as someone that lives in a city with mass transit, you change your habits.
You shop two or three times week at somewhere in walking distance. You walk to the vet, and you order lumber online with next day delivery.
If I genuinely need a car, there’s one parked in the next street I can rent with an app.
On top of that parking here is a pain in the arse, and the average traffic speed is something like 7mph.
This would make sense if anyone was going to ban all cars, when generally the idea is to drastically scale then back for when they’re necessary while making less inefficient modes more useful and attractive.
I keep seeing people bring this up but what really annoyed me is people think they need to do all that 100% of the time while in reality they do it like once a month or even a year, and the proceed to use that excuse to bring down any proposal of a mass transit. Mass transit is not there to solve everyone’s problem, it’s to solve the excessive use of car that given people 0 preference other than owning and using a car, and making city worst, and also affect the experience of people that do need to drive.
People who do that often don’t think far ahead.
Honestly, in a denser city focused on transit and not cars, and without shit zoning laws, these aren’t really problems for most people.
You should have a supermarket, school and other essentials within walking distance of your home. Even the vet, hairdresser, etc. That’s what a human, livable city is like.
Mass transit can get you close enough. Walking 10-15 minutes to your destination is good for your health. Especially for seniors. We wouldn’t have such an obesity crisis if people got up and moved more. Humans are built for walking.
Who the heck is hauling lumber every day/week? It’s cheaper to rent a van/truck for the couple days a year than it is to own and maintain a car. I bet the lumber yard has a delivery service.
If you have 5 kids and need a car to take them places, great, cars still exist. If you have mobility issues, cars still exist. If you live in the countryside, cars still exist. But I think these cases should be exceptions to the rule. Most of those 50k people who are just commuting to work every day could be taking public transit and contributing to a more livable city.
Not everyone has such needs, city transport could basically get you anywhere, though yes, it’s slower.
Perhaps we could get some better car rental, and just end up reducing traffic (those buses still need roads). I mean in similar way to bikes and electric scooters, but add chargers throughout the city and do the same with EVs.
If you’ve ever tried to drive across London (UK)… it takes 1 hour to get across the city by tube. 2 hours by car. Transit isn’t always slow!
The new REM in Montreal can go highway speeds, too, and usually crosses the bridge faster than the cars especially during peak times.
Are you a moron? I have a car. I go to work every day with a bike. I take my children to daycare with my bike.
I go to large market with my car once a week. I go to vet a once a year. If i order large quantitys of anything building related i order it straigh to home.
You could have said all that without asking me if I’m a moron. What was the purpose of that?
I’m envious of your lifestyle. But my lifestyle is such that I am constantly traveling 2 hours North 2 hours south 6 hours East driving 70 mph every Which way, a bicycle would not get me to all the places I need to be, I would drop dead from exhaustion and weather exposure if I tried to bicycle to all the places I need to go. You are fortunate you have found your happy place and it’s all within bicycling distance.
You are right. I had a bad day. Sorry.
But i havent found my happy place. I live in a city that has build so people can use bike as a commute.
We dont have massive suburban areas or megamalls that makes cars necessary. Also both pedesterian and public transportation has huge part in the citys layout.
Of course people in rural areas and people whose work necessitas driving to different locations are always going to need cars.
Before cars, people often just died because they couldn’t walk
Yeah I’m so glad walking was invented after cars started roaming the earth
/s
How about a subway?
A subway is a metro line located underground. Throughput is the same. Its just more expensive to dig the tunnels
In practice, throughput is not the same. There are fewer cars underground that just park on the tracks, fewer traffic accidents, demos etc. Subways make you independent of almost everything that happens above ground. When Beijing introduced the subway system, that first allowed people to estimate quite precisely when they would arrive at their destination.
Also, fewer people plan to build a park underground or use that real estate otherwise. So the above-ground use of space is restricted to the station entrances. The calculation would even be different in places like Seoul, where the subway system doubles as a public bunker system.
You seem to think of a tram. A metro is grade separated. So nothing, but the trains should be on the tracks at all times.
So this for example is a metro, but not a subway:
A subway is the American word for metro surely? And London’s is generally called The Underground.
The first metro to be called a subway is in Glasgow. They tried to rename it the Glasgow Underground to match London, but reverted to the old name when nobody used the new name.
this is why you contract out the tunnel construction to past you, when labor was cheaper. worked in london, nyc, paris… hell of a trick
NYC, home of the $2b price tag for a km of rail.
$2b today, but if you just use 1920s labor… EH? IT’S FREE TUNNEL REAL ESTATE
a 175m wide road would be well over 35 lanes of car traffic, closer to 58. Not 7.
Just as a 9 meter wide space for metros would be just for metros.
A 175m road scaled in reference to the 35m wide lane:
Thank you for this, the picture was really bothering me.
Thank you! That really bothered me but I was also too busy (read: lazy) to illustrate it myself.
Yeah i was thinking that too, no way 175m is that narrow.
Quality contribution. I completely overlooked the relative sizes.
I completely overlooked the relative sizes.
Your mum’s fat. And so is your nana.
relatives 🥁
Very much not proportional this representation.
How about for bicycles?
1 meter wide road with one ebike attached to 10 trailer behind.
Forget the electric part, you could develop some killer quads hauling all that.
Just 1 tandem bike with 50,000 seats
And, once again, we re-invent the bus.
Heheh. I know enough compsci to appreciate that from a data structure perspective. Cheers.
that’s gonna suck for the last guy on the route
It’s fine, it’s only 49,999 farts at most
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So instead of a quint bike you get a quindecuple bike?
Who’s Barry Badrinath?
