• JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    Great quote. I’d like to emphasize that you should not be trying to impress the person you’re talking to, not trying to show how smart you are, and absolutely not trying to tell the person how stupid he is. Your goal is to educate her. You’re not even trying to convert. Just give the information in a way that’s as easy to understand as possible. Let your interlocutor come to her own conclusions. Being open and honest is the best way to give people the freedom to change their opinion.

    • bizarroland@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      I disagree.

      Online is an excellent opportunity to teach, and even if people disagree with you or refuse to understand you, you leave behind a memento for other people to potentially eventually read, so even if it is impossible to reach the person you are specifically talking to, there can be multiplicative side effects of that conversation whose reach goes beyond anything you can imagine.

      That being said, there are people that just want to say their piece or dunk on somebody and then move on and they don’t care about the side effects.

      So, like everything, take it with a grain of salt, but I still think it’s worth the effort to communicate, to teach, to share when you know something or when you have a fundamental belief in something.

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      In my experience, people do absolutely benefit from patience and explanation. People have thanked me for being patient and clear, and I know I’ve helped comrades on their journeys. Some people already have their minds made up, sure, but then people observing are often swayed.

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      Online is no different than in person. Sometimes you have someone who is not receptive to new ideas, and sometimes you do. If you have someone who is receptive, who is asking actual questions, there is no reason to turn away the opportunity to educate them.

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      1 month ago

      That is absolutely false…

      If it helps, you can think of the “person being educated” as all the people reading the comments. If you are making coherent points and justifying what you’re saying then people will pick up on it. I think online conversation (in the aggregate) has a huge amount to do with influencing how people look at the world in modern society, probably more so than TV or newspapers or “online newspapers.” That’s not to say that any individual Lemmy poster or even Lemmy as a whole has any kind of move-the-needle influence, but on the whole, the influence from “the internet” is huge.

      The person you’re arguing with will probably not be convinced (certainly not after one conversation just do a total 180 and say they agree with you now), but even on Lemmy there are dozens or hundreds of people reading your stuff and seeing whether you make sense and being impacted by it. It means the temptation to just turn it into a shit-throwing contest on both sides is important to avoid, in favor of making compelling arguments in a way that people can get behind, if you actually care about your points landing for anyone who isn’t already a convert.

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    One of the biggest problems, especially online, is that people tend to do this inefficiently, either spending half an hour writing out a reasonably well-formed reply or throwing a slogan out in a few seconds. The Internet begs for us to use links to FAQs and other resources, and socialists have been writing FAQ pamphlets for hundreds of years so there’s no shortage of them. There’s a famous anarchist FAQ floating around, and ProleWiki and Leftypedia, Dessalines (lemmy.ml) FAQs and more. Using them can be the difference between a community staying friendly and welcoming, or burning out from answering the same question every day until you hate it. Just ask FOSS chatrooms.

    • if it’s a sincere ignorant question, they can get a well-writen, detailed explanation and links to further reading
    • if it’s a troll or a debate pervert, you only spent ten seconds on them