I don’t care which you use for alu
But if you’re one of those who call it alloy, then I hope you step on a Lego.
Alloy is a mixture of different materials, not short for aluminium
who the fuck calls aluminum alloy
I have never heard of this before
I think you’d get laughed out of the room if you said that around us
It happens a lot in cycling circles
IDK if I’ve heard aluminum by itself called an alloy. I do know that steel wheels are typically not called “alloy wheels” for some reason; that’s reserved for wheels made from an aluminum alloy.
Guy I went to high school with
He was the epitome of gullible, and had a conspiracy theorist dad
Bike parts. Lots of bike parts are made of aluminum-based mystery alloy so they’re marketed as just “alloy”. It’s pretty annoying when you’re a casual builder who actually cares what your bike is made out of.
I have never noticed that on bike parts before, huh
It was pronounced aluminum first. The Brits changed it purposely to sound fancy.
I heard it was a bad transmission of the telegram announcing it’s discovery. The Americans got it without the I so just started using that word instead. Everyone else got the correct word.
Common sense says this is likely an urban myth / made up.
This is not true. The initial discoverer, Sir Humphrey Davy, named it alumium and later changed it to aluminum. British chemists changed the name adding the I. Websters dictionary sealed the deal in 1925 by standardizing the name.
Nice. “I heard” this bullshit so I’m gonna roll up in here and repeat it without verifying it.
IIRC the -ium ending denotes a place of origin. I.e Magnesium was first find in Magnesia. Now, the Brits thought the -ium ending sounded posher, so they called it aluminium … but Alumnia isn’t a place, so they’re wrong.
Mendelevium? Ruthorfordium? Uranium? Plutonium?
They discovered those inside Mendel and Rutherford. … And there’s reason Uranium and Plutonium weren’t discovered until Bruce Willis went to space.
You know what, it’s something I heard once, but doing some research it doesn’t really hold water.
We performed an autopsy on mendelev and found a new element in there
Actually I believe it was pronounce alum first. It’s changed more than once. Anyway, the discoverer gets to name it.
The discoverer named it aluminum
Yeah, that’s my point. The world blames America for getting it wrong but it was really the discoverer that messed it up.
I mean… They didn’t really mess it up, Argentum, Molybdenum, Lanthanum, Aurum, Stannum
It’s a pretty standard latin element naming, just not AS common as -ium.
Oh I agree with you. It’s the rest of the world that doesn’t seem to. And I kind of agree with them too. Let me 'splain.
I think the Brits drive on the wrong side of the road. If you look at the origins of this you will find that they are actually driving on the correct side of the road and due to the evolution of the subject it is the rest of the world that messed it up. But… It’s the rest of the whole friggin world. I mean it’s just a handful of countries that drive on the left. Get your shit together people. So by that logic… aluminium.
We say aluminum in Canada too. I heard it was because aluminum was the original name but was changed to match the other elements shortly after. I guess NA never got the message though
So true! The next three elements that come right after it are Siliconium, Phosphorusium, and Sulfurium! So why wouldn’t it be Aluminium?! LOL
I mean, they did write “Almost”
Why say more syllable when few do
Copper ium? Gold ium? Lead ium? Mercury ium?
If we’re trying to fix inconsistencies in English, the periodic table is barely worth mentioning. Why are read (reed) and read (red) spelled the same? Why don’t cow and tow rhyme?
We should probably just abandon English for something better planned like Esperanto.
Cuprum, Aurum, Plumbium, Hydrargyrum.
They don’t exactly end in -ium but close enough
It’s plumbum. Notice how they all end in -um? Just like aluminum? You almost caught the nerd joke.
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I’m honestly a fan of having the option to use standardised/latinised chemical element names.
Cu = Cuprum = Copper.
Hg = Hydrargyrum = Mercury. Hydrargyrum is still sometimes (very very rarely) used in English.
Pb = Plumbum = Lead. The French for lead is plomb, for example. Would clear up a lot of confusion with homographs. We already use plumb in English, as in plumb line. (The fact that it’s plumbum, not plumbium, does undermine the whole aluminium>aluminum argument obviously).
Argentum instead of silver. Plenty of languages use a variation of that already. English already uses argent in some contexts, like heraldry.
Same thing for natrium instead of sodium, also common to have a variation of that in plenty of languages.
IRC Silicium was the originally proposed name for silicon. Plenty of languages also use a variation of that.
I picked these various elements because they end in -um rather than -ium when described by their Latin names. Because I think it is funny to complain about aluminum ending in -um.
TBH in the past, I’ve argued both for the -um ending, and for the -ium ending. It really annoys some people. It’s even more annoying, when they realise that you’ve managed to annoy them with such a pedantic point.
Another one is skeptical/sceptical. “I think you’ll find it comes from the Greek, so it should be with a k.”
Or the plural octopus. “I think you’ll find it comes from the Greek, so it’s octopodes. Octopi is certainly wrong, because it doesn’t come from latin.”
I think I may be an energy vampire.
Alum-
A lu min-
Alumi-
Refined Bauxite.
You know the funny thing about that is some Minecraft mods use Bauxite as the name for the ore and ingots to sidestep the debate on how to spell/pronounce the metal lol
I’m going with ‘box-ite’, and if that’s wrong somehow, I’m removing it from the server, rofl.
I never realized that, time to make a mod that renames those instances aluminum!
if(item(forgedict:bauxite)){
replacePrefix(Aluminum)
};
Uh, does that break every single mod with a recipe involving bauxuminium, or no?
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It’s pseudocode, since I don’t know how to program in Java
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Technically no, because it’s not modifying the item’s forge dictionary internal ID, just the displayed string in the two-word combination (IE: “Bauxite Ingot” -> “Aluminum Ingot”)
Hey fair enough, its been… a number of years since I ran a MC server!
I … don’t actually remember the precise syntax anymore either, lol.
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Okay, alumiNEEum it is, then.
just fuck it out and call it alum
I’ll give you aluminium if you brits agree to stop pronouncing “ears” like “urrs” because it really weirds me out.
I didn’t realize that was a thing.
I love British pronunciation most of the time, except for the word arse. That one for some reason grinds my gears. While Rs are mostly not pronounced in their dialects, when it does get pronounced, it goes hard.
So is it Molybdenium now?
Soccer
You mean the word that was literally invented by the English to describe asSOCiation football?
Just trying to stir the pot a bit. :)
Picking 3 letters in the middle of the word is strange to me. I think we should call it “asser”
Assest
Did you also get that factoid from vsauce back in like 2013?
Edit: https://youtu.be/e5jDspIC4hY factoid starts at about 40 seconds in. The entire video is a good watch, though. My, how our attention has changed since 2013…
No, my mom is from England and i have to stand my ground on a lot of stuff because I won’t let a bunch of Limey’s criticize me for their own doings
Just hit em with the Anakin when they don’t want to take blame for their own doings
Aluminium is more fun to say
This is really funny as a bilingual person.
When I speak English to my white friends I say Aluminum.
When I speak Sinhala to family I say Aluminium.
Platinum enters the chat.
*Platuminium
