• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I’m seeing a lot of sudden unexpected failures in Russia these days, I wonder if they’re pulling out the old cold war style subterfuge/sabotage playbooks from the CIA.

  • Magister@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Well, it’s because Russia is jamming GPS signal, it affects planes, cars, everything relying on GPS.

    • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today
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      That’s a huge leap to assume GPS blocking was also blanketing other 2 way satellite communication frequencies.

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      None of these things need GPS to function. Even planes. A compass, a map and a clock go a long way.

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    I feel like I got my car at the perfect time:

    It has Android Auto and CarPlay, and it’s a manual so there’s no way for it to turn on or off remotely.

    Now I just have to make sure it survives until I die.

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      It’s a voluntary anti-theft measure I believe. Prevents it from being started without the owner’s consent. Which immobilizers are also supposed to do, but we all know how well those work.

      If I owned a Porsche in Russia, I would also get something like that tbh. Luckily I don’t live in Russia, nor do I have a Porsche anymore and mine was too old for this kinda shit anyway

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        21 hours ago

        Living in Russia in Moscow/Petersburg is actually really nice these days.

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              I was thinking more about all the dismemberment and depression jokes about the one on Neva with the Aurora cruiser docker yadda-yadda

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                It’s the weather, probably. Something for the natives, and Finns maybe.

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                  Yeah, but at the same time - the weather in Vyborg is fine by me, and the weather in Narva\Ivangorod. But the place between them (one the coast) is somehow far more depressive.

                  And I don’t think I’ve heard Helsinki being called depressive.

                  It’s something about planning, perhaps? Streets are laid out so that you feel as if you were in a military location. People live in those historical beautiful buildings as if they were birds making nests under the roof, as if people were not the main thing there.

                  And places around SPb, like Strelna, are also not depressive at all. At least in my perception. That air flavored with Baltic salt, every sea smells differently, the Baltic water smell is nice, in some way similar to Coca-Cola.

                  It’s the city itself.

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          I mean if I was a rich ethnic Russian in either of those cities, I’d probably love it.

          I’m Estonian though, don’t speak any more Russian than yes, no, please, thank you and go fuck yourself. Of course I also understand when being asked for a cigarette - an absolute necessity in Estonia (though these days you’re very unlikely to get attacked for not providing said cigarettes - 20-30 years ago was different, but I wasn’t exactly old enough to smoke then)

          But overall I’m glad I don’t live in Russia because I don’t agree with the politics. Even before the current war, I’m sure I would’ve been seen as a dissident. I’m sure the people of Russia are actually mostly very nice. It’s also cheaper than a lot of western countries so working remotely, I’m sure I would’ve been able to live very comfortably before the war. I just wouldn’t ever want to live under Putin rule and I wouldn’t really want to live in a country with so many nationalists (US, if I ever moved there, would be a bit easier, because it’s more about race than nationality and I’m white)

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    2 days ago

    Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) — a security module designed to prevent theft but now shutting down cars unexpectedly.

    Also, what a strangely written article.

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      Owners welcomed theft deterrent like that. OnStar is probably the main original US service, found in GM cars. I think Subaru picked them up at some point, but basically all new cars have the option to have manufacturer tracking and app-based vehicle connections for remote start, tracking, service alerts, diagnostic uploads, etc

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        But who steals a Porsche? 1 in 4 Lexus SUVs are stolen because where they end up in eastern europe and Africa, people want reliable vehicles. Top two stolen vehicles by far are Civics and Accords for that reason. No one steals Land Rovers.

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          I don’t know about Russian thefts, but US Theives will absolutely go for a Porsche. Not every theft is shipped overseas. Fast, flashy cars are stolen to thrash for a couple days and then wreck them. So, sure, by raw numbers, I’m sure honda and Toyota top the list. That doesn’t mean Porsche is off the list - the stat is higher per capita. I mean, Kias are top of the list in the US Midwest and they are NOT being shipped. Even those are just stolen for joyride. The 3rd category is stripping them for parts. No hotwiring/fob spoofing, no complicated theft. Winch it up on a flatbed faster than the owner can respond.

          Ask any Porsche owner if they’re afraid of theft. I promise, every one of them will say yes

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      Remember when they started this with games? It would phone home every time you started it up and make sure your license was valid.

      And then companies stopped supporting the game or went out of business. And all of a sudden no one could play those games anymore.

      Now they’re doing it with cars. How long until that expensive car you bought is no longer supported and you have to upgrade to the new model?

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    1 day ago

    Maybe Russia started jamming satellite signals and did this to themselves.

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    Where are the accident videos? Russian drivers are shit and a Porsche losing power turns into a target.

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    first they disabled Russian porsches and I didn’t care because I am not a russian owner of a porsche.

    then they came for Ukrainian tractors and I didn’t care because I am not an Ukrainian owner of a tractor.

    then step by step everything was digitally locked and I owned nothing and I was not really happy.

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      and I owned nothing

      Companies love that, until everybody is completely in debt and they learn you can’t seize property from people that don’t own anything.

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        I think you are too nice.
        they are actively trying to own everything.
        And then they don’t need to seize anything, because you are forced to work to the bone (even more than you are right now) to just afford your own house rent/property tax.

        Companies love to become like old Lord and counts and own the land/products and you just rent and work for them.

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          Yes. They’re busy buying everything already. They just need a financial crisis to get the rest for pennies on the dollar. After that it’s time for neo-feudalism.

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    13 hours ago

    And this is why I will never own a vehicle manufactured after 2006.

    I have just too little control with newer vehicles, be it having to auth with the mothership with every repair I do at home just to get it to start up, or even failing to start up in the first place when the mothership could not be contacted.

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    First: It’s funny, because it is happening to Russians

    Second: It’s fucking scary, because it can happen everywhere. Fuck cars that rely on digital services.

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      What’s up with hating every person born in Russia? Will never get it. I mean, a car shutting down sounds like life-threatening.

      • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        The little thing called “invading ukraine” and those that drive porsches are not your average citicens but the upper crust buddys of putin who are as guilty as putin

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        This isn’t happening to every person in Russia, it’s happening to every person in Russia with a modern Porsche.

        Assumptions can be made about the sample set.

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        I’ll keep my unkillable Gen 2 Prius. 281,000 miles on the odometer, original engine, replaced the hybrid battery a few years back with a brand new one from Toyota (that I installed myself after convincing a dealership to just sell one to me) and knock on wood, but that’s the last maintenance item I’ve even had to spend any money on.

        Too bad quality dropped off after the Gen 2 years.

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          I had a gen 2. I only got rid of it because I had kids and needed a bit more space. That thing was reliable asf. I did the struts on it once which was a bit of a pain in the ass (you have to disassemble a lot of the interior to get to the top nut) other than that, the only thing I ever did was oil and brakes and had 0 issues. Thankfully I avoided catalytic converter theft which is a huge problem with those in CA. My next car (Lexus Rx hybrid) I wasn’t so lucky.

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    I doubt most owners of recent-model luxury-brand cars in Russia are average joes for which this is their only transport. I therefore find my sympathy to be somewhat limited.

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        The “O” word, actually: oligarchs (or their relatives or best buddies). Chances are that at least some of them are under sanction in more civilized countries.

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    Good thing this is a completely optional “feature” that I’d never pay for

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    Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?

    I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It’s not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.

    Also, why don’t we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause of chaos.

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      It’s the reason why no one steals Teslas. Easy to brick, impossible to charge on their system if stolen.

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        I’m sure there’s plenty of other reasons to not steal a tesla. It being a mobile surveillance device being one of them. Also, if I was going to steal a car, I’d pick one with better build quality and one that doesn’t have a different fire exit than the normal way to exit that I’d probably be going for if my car was suddenly on fire.

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      As for “cut russias internet”, I imagine they have a lot of services hosted on their own infrastructure within Russia.

      Of course probably a lot of people use western services like social media and e-commerce. Which would piss off a lot of Russian people. So you could have western governments require sanctions on services to reject Russian traffic.

      One of the downsides though is there are probably a lot of people who disagree with the regime and want to get info in and out. You push them closer to isolation like North Korea. So called “winning of hearts and minds” might be better served by keeping things open.

      But what do I know.

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      Because it was the anti theft system and immobilizer.
      It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.

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        How does it validate that you are a valid driver? Do you enter a PIN or something?

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          With your personal vehicle access device, aka, the car key. Immobilizers with transponders in the key have been a thing (and in some places a legal requirement) for like three decades.
          They’ve just gotten more aggressive now with “keyless” entry and being able to use your phone as your key, so some validate that info in real time - no network, no access. (Up to a point. They won’t immediately strand you just because you ran out of cell coverage obviously, but apparently Porsche did enforce some part of their system to that point)