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    Average Store Citizen player

    We just need to buy another ship guise, they’re so close to release!

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          I made no mistake. You should mind your own education more and spend less time throwing shade online.

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            Of course you did, which is why you chose to attack my intellect and spelling* instead of addressing what I’m mocking.

            It’s ok if people make fun of things you like, that doesn’t mean they’re dumb or anything. Assuming people are dumb for making fun of people who have fallen for the scam for over a decade says more about your intellect than mine.

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              I have never had anything to do with Star Citizen, and I don’t care that you’re mocking it. I just think you should pay more attention to your spelling if you’re going to do so. It makes you look foolish.

              Anyway, I’m done explaining this to you. Buh-bye.

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                I just think you should pay more attention to your spelling if you’re going to do so. It makes you look foolish.

                Thank you for admitting you completely missed the sarcastic mocking. You could have saved us all some time by not protecting your ego from the start.

                Anyway, I’m done explaining this to you. Buh-bye.

                Good, saves me the trouble of breaking out the crayons to help you understand the point you’re ignoring.

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    $1 billion !?

    That is insane.

    Elite Dangerous had a budget of £8m… if Cloud Imperium Games can’t release SC for a hundred times that amount it’s because it’s a grift.

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      it’s because it’s a grift.

      Always has been.

      Look at the price of those ships you can buy, its always looked like a very obvious attempt to keep rolling in money while always juuuuuuust being a bit too far away to release. But just give us a few more million and we’ll toooootally release it.

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        You can’t even see the most outlandish prices because the shop has a hidden shop. If you want to see the most expensive ships you have to have spent something like 12k on the game.

        I’m not sure if my entire steam library is worth 12k and my library is pretty big.

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      You have a sandbox for griefers. Nota chance in hell. Eve is not even remotely close to similar except it too grifts players

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        I mean in EVE, it’s the players that grift each other mostly. That’s why it’s called EvE, or Everyone vs Everyone

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        You’ve kind of got to go out of your way to get “griefed” tbh, I largely fly solo and short of the occasional unexpected gatecamp or gank (the latter means you were doing something too risky in something expensive and somebody did the math) the biggest issue is in finding decent matchups that don’t end in a cyno dropping 20 redeemers on you

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      No flying though. I’m looking for airplanes in space and sometimes SC can scratch that itch but E:D is the better product.

      Like you literally cannot “fly” your damn spaceship, you have to use a point and click interface (at least the last time I checked). I wish SC was a good product and I’ll be sad the day E:D goes offline but EVE is definitely not it for me.

      edit: E:D is elite dangerous for people that don’t know what the fuck all these space dorks are talking about

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      Started EVE in like 2009, now I find it just ends up taking so much time to do anything. Never been into 1v1 PvP but do like small to medium groups, but that can take so much time to get and you might not even find anything.

      So it ends up with you sitting there for ages with nothing going on, then When it does start to get interesting sorry gotta drop off to go to bed.

      I think Anvil Empires might scratch a similar itch for me, while being a bit easier to drop in/out. Albion Online is one I tried too but barely even got into much PvP, maybe I should try again. I like cheap builds really, don’t want to grind for hours to lose it all in 1 go. Not sure how cheap you can reasonably go in AO.

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      Elite dangerous is a blast for a while. And it has vr.

      I haven’t played since before you could go and walk around, but for what it is I loved it for a while.

      Wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle but it takes a long while to notice the lack of depth and it’s a blast to pop in your vr headset and some good country trucking music and just hop around the galaxy trading.

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          Yeah, but ED is a full game, not some decade old alpha scam that has no actual plan and is a living definition of scope creep and customer milking.

          I really wanted to get into Store Citizen back in the early 2010s, but thankfully I clocked the grift early before I put any time or money into it.

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    Hint: It won’t ever be 100%

    Any and all time I hear of this ‘game’, I can’t help but think that it is a scam. It is perhaps the most decorated and sugar-coated of scams to ever exist. Simply because they’re saying ‘yeah you can kindof play it’ and that alone, is their cover-all excuse. It wasn’t too long ago that they invested in some very expensive office and they proclaimed that they needed it to help further development or whatever bullshit reason they stated it was for.

    But yeah they can just do whatever they want and fools will still throw down their money, even though they probably will almost never know where all of it will go to. I won’t be surprised if some of the money is making one guy rich. I wouldn’t be surprised if the money is used to funnel some political campaign. Something. We won’t ever know, but because this project is technically playable, they just throw up their arms being like “what? it’s still developing! we just need more time and money!”.

    It is projects like Star Citizen, that has made me have an extremely soured perspective with early access projects. One other game that came to mind was 7 Days to Die, I remember getting that through Humble Monthly. At that time, the game was like 5 years in development and was still in the alpha stages.

    It went through numerous changes, both unnecessary and unneeded while progressing. But the years kept piling up. I think it is now fully released but it still doesn’t look 100%. It just lacked what direction it really wanted to go and even then I thought that project was grifting people who bothered supporting it.

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    I backed it a lifetime ago and have gone back and forth between “it’s a scam” and “maybe it could happen” so many times that I just don’t care any more. As broken as it is and as slow as progress has been, there has never been anything like it. I check in a couple of times every year and usually have fun seeing the sights for a week or two. I think I’ve had enough enjoyment from it to justify my original cost.

    Even though their goals are unreasonable, irrational, and completely mad, they have somehow managed to fund stable development for over a decade and have actually made meaningful progress. Will I live to see it realized? Who knows. I wish them luck for both their sakes and the people who spent big money on this ridiculous dream, but unlike many others, I have no hard feelings personally. I’d like to see it realized someday, but I have no more money to give them even if I wanted to.

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      When the scam managed to run long enough to, be it by a chance or choice, stop being a scam xD

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      That’s how I feel too. I only bought the $40 entry years ago. Check back every so often and they add more and more. It may feel like a scam but from the hundreds of played hours I got my money’s worth many times over. And if they continue to improve every few months it’s a win win for gamers.

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    I am waiting to play star citizen until full release. I assume I will never play star citizen.

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      • Appeal to the authority you give yourself based on *past experience (leave out any negative past experience) *religious/spiritual “insight” can be a substitute here

      • Present an ambitious “vision” that claims to require said past experience to fully grasp

      • Allow your targets to start building the product in their imagination based on the crumbs you gave them with step 2

      • Sell disjointed tangential products that don’t interfere with the player’s dream logic and promise they will connect to your cohesive vision with time

      • Find “technical delays”

      • Express that you need backers to buy more of the dream to help get through the “technical delays”

      • Repeat for 9 years until the market begins to retract

      • Open the dream up to asian markets

      • ???

      • Profit

      All it requires is being a soulless piece of shit.

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      What you can play right now in Star Citizen is arguably better than what Duke Nukem Forever will ever be.

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      I really wish another company would come along and just do properly what CIG pretends they’re doing. I would love the game SC shows in their marketing, I wish a company would come along and make their own competent version of that experience while leaving the Chris Roberts and CIG jank and practices behind. They should hire Todd Papy.

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      100% selling hopes and dreams. I understand there’s a playable alpha, I was a backer for over a decade. There is no cohesive vision, just endless theory crafting and half baked implementations to maintain the illusion of progress, but every time they add something, they seemingly need to break something else for their 8 ticks-per-second system to be able to handle it…

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      Never preorder.

      The fun thing is looking into history… especially the one of Freelancer. It would never have been released if it weren’t for Jörg Neumann who - in short - finished it.

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    I love how they say “next year” like that was the expected release date to begin with.

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      In ‘24 they announced they’d be releasing the SP campaign after not having an official release target since early 2020.