FYI Prism Launcher is a Minecraft launcher ( !prismlauncher@lemmy.world )
*Data is based on 1908 publicly shared crash logs because no telemetry is collected
It is most commonly installed with Flatpak.
The most common graphics kernel driver is amdgpu
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Many people on windows don’t know about it tho. PrismLauncher is vastly superior to the dogshit launcher mojang provides. I’m pretty sure there would be more windows users if it was more known.
Prism was the one my friends had me use on Windows, besides CurseForge I don’t really know about other launchers lol.
I’ve been around, there’s the technic launcher, ATLauncher (that one was the go to for making packa for playing with friends), the FTB launcher, as mentioned the curseforge launcher was part of the twitch app for a while (I think it was also something like the Curse app before that?), and then Prism Launcher is actually a fork of a fork of MultiMC, but the in-between fork was a little bit of a controversial mess that fell to a hostile takeover by one of the maintainers - which spurred the remaining maintainers to make what I see as the best launcher currently available. Oh, and I think modrinth might have a launcher now?
Oh, yeah, I also remember the old Minecraft launcher, I think there was a modded version of that with support for multiple profiles so you didn’t have to switch mods manually!
It’s funny how much history there is if you go digging into things like this, and I’m sure I missed a lot.
Wow, I thought it was the opposite! That the majority of users are on Linux.
Or maybe it is the case, because the stats have a very limited dataset.
Is there a variant that allows users not to have to pay Microsoft for minecraft?
Yes, it looks like TLauncher is the Pirate version.
No cause that would literally be piracy.
If you don’t want to pay Microsoft then you don’t play Minecraft.
Go play a different block game like vintage story.
Even if you do pirate Minecraft trying to use mods or do anything with it at this point is so beyond painful that it’s not even worth it. Microsoft has made it a mess.
Bruh.
PolyMC allowed that without a hassle.
Playing pirate MC with mods and play multiplayer in pirate servers is not a hassle at all too.
It’s the same development team, but if Prism officially endorsed that they’d be annihilated by the trillion dollar company lawyers, mate.
No but there might be a json file to drop in your dot files that covers you
Hmmm
I use it on windows. Literally can’t get the java version to run on windows without it (and I actually own the game)
i have seen people dualboot linux just because minecraft runs so much better compared to windows
People willing to play expert modpacks are also people who are willing to tinker with Arch Linux.
Seriously though, there’s so many parallels between modded Minecraft and Linux: they’re foss, they have a billion packages with a billion dependencies, weird bugs pop up and you work around them, and of course, the skill set to automate things in a game like that (or factorio, satisfactory, etc) lend themselves to using console commands and scripts and such.
That said, it’s also just easier to play Minecraft on Linux with a launcher, haha.
I was so happy when I discovered Prism because I did not want to install multiple layers of garbage to get Curse modpacks working like I had to on Windows. I still have friends with Overwolf running in the background!
If I installed it on a Linux machine and had mods, can someone on a console join and have the mods work?
Spouse plays on console, and it would make it more likely I’d like to play if I could add some kind of mods
Java edition (the one Prism and most other launchers run) and Bedrock edition (the one on consoles) are incompatible with each other unfortunately. Also Bedrock doesn’t support modding afaik
I’m not sure if I remember this right, but I think there was also a while where it was integrated into the Twitch desktop client
EDIT: Yeah, you needed the Twitch client (with Twitch account) to be able to download modpacks
Oh yeah! Fuck that noise too!
Prism and Modrinth have been a godsend! It is so easy to manage mods and updating
Or maybe it crashes more on Linux (or people on Linux are more inclined to share crash logs)
or people on Linux are more inclined to share crash logs
That’s probably true
It’s based on crash logs so you’re assuming all OPs have the same rate of crashes, which is probably false.
Do you mean OS’?
I use it since the login requirements are insane for vanilla Minecraft.
What if it crashes way more often in Linux?
Or what if it crashes way more often on Windows? Also, can you disable sharing of the crash logs? Are Windows users or Linux users more likely to share the logs? We don’t have enough data, this graph could be skewed either way. Though it’s probably mostly accurate.
It’s anecdotal , but I heard that Linux bug reports are actually a problem for some game developers. When 1% of your customer base submits 10-20% of your bug reports, middle managers get upset. Apparently several games have had Linux support dropped because of this.
While Linux often has more bugs in games (and so more reports), Linux users have also been conditioned to report bugs better. It helps a lot in FOSS etc.
Yeah, I’ve also heard that Linux users report more bugs, but including bugs that are not Linux specific. So they are helpful to the Windows users in a way.
I just wanted to add to what you said by sharing this bit of information, because I do find it very interesting to see. I hope I don’t come off as argumentative, because that’s not my intent.
I recall this post on Reddit from an indie game developer of the game “ΔV: Rings of Saturn”. They said how 38% of the bug reports for their game came from Linux users, despite only making up 5.8% of the purchases for the game.
It does make it seem like the Linux version of their game was buggier, but of the some 400 bug reports they got, only three were specific to the Linux build. In this case, getting more bug reports from Linux users did not indicate the game was buggier on Linux.
I will not say this is the case for all cross-OS games because this is just one example, but it seems that Linux users are more inclined to provide bug reports than Windows users are, and that doesn’t necessarily mean Linux versions of software are buggier. In some (maybe even many, I don’t know) cases, the Linux version certainly is buggier or performs worse due to developers spending less time on it or other reasons I’m not aware of, but it’s not always the case. The higher volume of bug reports from Linux users may give the perception that the Linux version is buggier.
And, as the developer mentioned, those bugs exist whether or not they’re aware of them. I’d argue that the decision by some developers to remove Linux versions because of the higher volume of bug reports is short-sighted because many of those bugs are not going to be OS-dependent, and now there are fewer reports of them.
You’ve basically summed up what I was trying to say better than I did. To Linux users, bug reports are a good thing. They help fix things. To middle management, bug reports are a bad thing, they hurt their bonuses.
One group needs to change, and Linux users are impressively stubborn.
That’s essentially it. I suspect this is probably a bigger problem when profit is what drives the development of the game rather than passion. I know it’s more nuanced than that because profit-driven developers can still be passionate and care about the quality of the product, but I personally suspect that profit-first development is where there’s less tolerance for bug reports. And, keep in mind that I’m still speculating, but I suspect that many of those profit-first devs are probably the same ones that rush releases… and we know what that generally does to the “final” product.
Bug reports really are a good thing. It’s as you said. One group needs to change, and I don’t think it’s the Linux users. Some developers consider it free Q/A and free testing, but like you said - if bonuses and rep are on the line, well it’s easier to see how this sort of thing happens where Linux versions of software get pulled because of the volume of bug reports. I think it’s dishonest, really. Many of the big names have the developer volume to make this less of an issue.
The crash log sharing is opt in, as far as I recall
It is
Anecdotal of course, but I use it regularly and it has never crashed. I’m using EndeavourOS.
This is about Minecraft crashing, not the launcher itself
Oh, so the Minecraft crash logs show which launcher is used? I had no idea! Interesting.
Kind of, the launcher inserts some information at the start of the log with general information such as hardware, mods used, and launcher version & source. I’ve written a parser that extracts that information.
It’s the best Minecraft launcher right now so it doesn’t surprise me that much. Anyone playing Minecraft on Linux (Windows too) should use it
I just swapped to it last week, from curseforge. omg it’s so much better
next swap is to Linux, but I’m really taking my time with that, because I am lazy
Do you play any kernel level anti cheat games or absolutely must have desktop Office? If not, just pull the trigger. It’s so worth it.
no, on my personal computer, it’s purely laziness that has kept me from switching this past year. I don’t do much on my own pc lately beyond game, and not much variety lately. I just haven’t gotten around to cleaning up all my data and shit, which in my mind is step number one to sorting out my computers and network setup going forward. I have a bunch of shit to do and just want to tackle it when I have time to do it all, not currently in a ‘tech’ phase of hobbies lol. but soon enough, it is winter after all, with less time outside.
I am surprised that amd is at the top, but the nvidea arbitrary restrictions and tax are quite high.
Let’s keep passing those Linux numbers up!
Side note: why is there a presumably third party “Minecraft launcher”, doesn’t the app just open? What does this do?
minecraft has a vanilla launcher too, because the game started out as a java applet so you need a shitton of flags to actually get the game to run normally. also there’s no way to login to an account in the actual game.
anyway, prism is a mod-loading launcher. it integrates with curseforge and modrinth to allow you to install, build and distribute mods and modpacks.
Oh cool, thanks!
I guess that explains a bit more why Linux is so high, but still good to see.
Haha, I just installed prism (via flatpak) to set it up and see what my Linux performance was like compared to my prior Windows performance a couple days ago.
Don’t strongly recall my Windows performance, but pretty sure Linux was doing better, frametimes seemed more consistent for the same result. Also, man, Prism is still the best, such a great way to manage a lightly modded Minecraft instance, with just a few handpicked mods, shaders, and resource packs.
Apparently Java on Linux (for gaming) has some next level black wizardry optimizations compared to Windows.
Many a junk laptop I have restored had Minecraft made playable via linux :)
