He looks like he’s ready to start working on a manifesto, just gotta let the hair grow out more to match the beard
I don’t understand how any of these visions fundamentally differ from Mastodon.
Decentralized? Yep. It’s got no center. Open source? Yep, you can fork it and make your own if you want. Unmoderated? Sure, if you want that, you can set up an instance and host whatever illegal content you want. You’ll have a lot of legal problems and most people don’t want it, but the option exists.
Is there any point besides money and crypto bullshit? If you want to post short comments that your friends can subscribe to that isn’t controlled by a big corporation that gives your data to the government… well we have that. It exists. It’s pretty okay. Go use it.
The biggest individual difference is that bluesky makes identity independent of the hosting server (via cryptographic keys) and makes content location independent of the hosting server (via content addressing).
And these features together also enable more efficient caching and propagation in the network as well as enabling features like custom feeds and 3rd party moderation tooling which works the same independently of which server you’re on. So Bluesky can give you a better global view of the network and more efficient communication between users on many different servers in the same thread.
Ironically enough, Jack’s other favorite place Nostr (which is built as P2P with repeater nodes) is also adding moderation tooling similar to that in Bluesky (labelers making use of the content addressing and account key ID) to flag stuff
Bluesky is pretty fun and I’m glad he’s not there shitting it up anymore. I’ve only seen one nutsack on there so far.
Bluesky hasn’t been hyper-commoditized yet. I don’t see ads everywhere. I don’t have bots jamming ׺°”˜
”°º× 🎀 𝒫𝓊𝓈𝓈𝓎 𝐼𝓃 𝐵𝒾♡ 🎀 ׺°”˜”°º× into my feed. I’m not being spammed with “We noticed you haven’t joined our premium service yet, but for $8/mo we’ll stop showing you this message!” annoyance marketing.But I’ve got no doubt its coming. It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users, such that enshittification turns a profit rather than curbing adoption.
It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users
Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.
The problem with twitter is Musk fired all the people who spent their day figuring out how to hide (or just delete) shitty content.
Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.
Twitter usage surged significantly prior to the Musk buyout. In 2010 they had 40M. They crested 400M users by 2020.
That’s the difference between growing your base and harvesting them.
Bluesky has in the neighborhood of 5-6M, by comparison.
Between threads mastadon and bluesky, which one do you think will be the biggest in the next year? Or are they gonna all keep living in the shadow of Twitter
Mastodon is more of a platform than a single service. Truth Social is, for instance, an insurance of Mastodon that hasn’t been updated since 2022.
Or are they gonna all keep living in the shadow of Twitter
Practically speaking, the future is probably Threads/Facebook/IG. They seems to have encircled social media and strangled it.
But that’s at a national/global scale. Outside of Lemmy style message boards, I don’t really fuck with social media anymore.
The fact that Bluesky has some form of content moderation and has occasionally banned users for things like using racial slurs in their usernames.
Actually, Jack Dorsey may be the problem. Good to see him shift focus to that “free speech”, pro-cryptocurrency platform Nostr. I see it like a containment zone for the worst people.
I think that it’s hard to find a level of content control that everyone is happy with. I’d favor fewer restrictions.
But that’s one thing that’s nice about the Threadiverse model – it’s federated. You can have one set of restrictions on one instance, and another on another.
Beehaw has pretty good conversation. I enjoy my discussions on their communities. They have a pretty upbeat mood. It also has an extremely low bar for defederation – it’s defederated with even lemmy.world. I don’t like that, would not use that as my home instance.
My home instance is lemmy.today. The admin there is aiming for not defederating with anyone. I like that. But…not everyone wants that.
Point is, there can be multiple levels of content moderation on the Threadiverse, both at the instance and community level, and people who have different preferences can have the level of moderation that they want. Some people take a free-speech-absolutist position. Others want a safe space. Some people don’t want pornography on their forums. Some people only want certain types of pornography. Some people take issue with certain types of political radicalism. Some people want to associate with Threads users, and others do not.
I think that that’s maybe the best of all worlds.
