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          Maybe that CEO will also quit, because other companies offer them a higher salary.

          It’s so easy to say they should just pay their CEO less. I mean, I get it, it’s a ridiculous amount of money that no one needs. But few people, who are qualified for that job, will just do it out of the goodness of their hearts for a salary far below industry standards.

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    I sincerely hope that is what’s going to happen and Mozilla gets severely fucked over for how they have been running their shit. Break their business and rethink from scratch how we run and finance the development of one of the most important pieces of software around. Hint: You’re not going to be competitive with big tech by copying their practices, marketing “AI” bullshit and pocket and all that crap. You can’t compete with google there, they can always outspend you.

    As a Linux user, such a break would also be very timely, now that we have survived the painful surgeries of systemd and wayland. Those problems are mostly fixed, so we need another dysfunctional troublemaker - Firefox it is!

    But seriously: The official story is always that google gives Mozilla the money to be the default search engine. But really, they don’t need to care. Google needs Firefox so they can pretend they don’t have a browser monopoly. For similar reasons, google used to employed 10000s of people who were doing very much non-essential stuff that is entirely irrelevant for their business. They could have fired them all long ago, and massively increased their profitability. But those would have looked obscene and raises regulators’ attention. So just hiring a bunch of expensive engineers who build google chat 23.0 and whatever makes them appear more like a “normal” company.

    • We completely agree, Mozilla should not be run like it is i.e. a Tech Startup and should allow donations to Firefox directly.

      It should become a worker owned co-op as that would make a lot of things better in the long run.

      It’s been clear for a while now, their current way of operating just isn’t going to work and hasn’t been, especially since they’re adding rubbish no-one wants or needs e.g. the private adverts thing.

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    Maybe that’s not bad for firefox.

    Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects and just focus on delivering a good browser.

    Algo the lack of google as financial support means they’ll rely more on donations, which would mean that they really need to focus on offering a good browser.

    I’ll gladly donate to firefox if I would see they are really focusing on it.

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        Mass Layoffs

        AI Focus

        End of Support status for FireFox on windows older than Windows 10

        Removal of many settings such as browser.privateWindowSeparation.enabled

        It’s a company. Mozilla Foundation has nonprofit status but the Subsidiary Mozilla Corporation is for-profit.

        TBH I’m biased af because I just liked it better before all the recent updates.

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          I don’t understand why you are about layoffs. They are cutting useless bloat. (VR didn’t pan out go figure) Also Windows 7 isn’t supported by Microsoft so it doesn’t make sense to support it. It isn’t even receiving security patches.

          From a profitability perspective I think there is lots of potential in privacy tech. The problem is that they keep creating and then discontinuing random stuff.

          I don’t like Mozilla but the stuff you listed doesn’t seem like the problem to me.

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              Servo has been integrated into Firefox. The old engine has been partially replaced that’s why Firefox is fast now. Servo is now the old term for Gecko.

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                Servo is not the old name for Gecko. Gecko existed long before Servo was started and Servo continues to be developed independently of Mozilla. It was a research project to develop a web rendering engine in Rust taking advantage of parallelization. The parallelization stuff mostly made it through the Quantum project several years ago, which did indeed help performance. That’s about it. As of right now, Gecko’s code base 55.4% C++, 22.6% JavaScript, 4.5% C, 4.3% Kotlin and a mere 3.8% Rust. If Servo had indeed been integrated into Firefox, over half of this would be Rust. 53.2%, if the current Servo repository is anything to go by.

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                  I personally think it is silly to try to keep alive. If it was good Mozilla would’ve used it more. You can have your own take though

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        It is shocking to me how many people on Lemmy hate Firefox

        Although some people are Google fanbois or reactionary dumbasses, I think most of what you’re misinterpreting as “Firefox hate” is actually love for Firefox and hate for what Mozilla has done to it.

        Most Firefox-critics’ feelings towards it are more like this:

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    Oh for fun! I don’t want Mozilla to go down, Firefox is one of the few non-Chromium web browsers; I’m glad that Google is pronounced as a monopoly, as it is true. However, for every good thing, there is a terrible curse that shows how much our system needs to be changed. It will be so heartening to not have Apple using Google Search by default, as the results are fucking shit. They could survive the lack of Investor Daddy’s cash.

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        Who exactly is going to pay for it’s development in their stead? Developing firefox is an enormous ongoing technical project akin to building the Linux kernel. Someone has to pay or it won’t get done to the standard it needs to be done.

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          A project as big as Mozilla wouldn’t be abandoned. If Mozilla stopped development I guarantee more than one group would fork.

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              Of course they would, Firefox is a huge project. But that doesn’t mean Mozilla is the only organization that can manage it.

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                And that’s why IMO the project should ensmallened. Instead of trying to catch up to everything bloatware internet and Google are doing, Neo Firefox / Neo Mozilla could instead focus on developing a subset that’s lean and safe to use (no JS, for example) or even promote and offer first-class support to alternative internets like Gemini (the actual one, not Google’s namesquat).