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If they dont use wine, they’ll sell you a subscription to a cloud machine running legacy Windows to run your legacy apps in. They already have this product Windows cloud pc is a thing
Watch them be the ones to make Loss32
How are Nvidia GPUs holding up on Linux at this point? Since the author specifically praised AMD and Linux.
Counter to the experiences I usually read about here, I put an Nvidia GPU into my Linux box over the weekend and it just worked immediately.
Now I have no idea if I’ve been reading the troubles of a vocal minority, or if I should go buy a lotto ticket this weekend. Haha.
Same boat here, just works, both on my laptop and deksktop.
In fact most of our company runs linux on laptops with nvidia gpu…
The biggest problem i can think of is a distro that doesn’t ship the drivers in their package manager. and then it’s just following the description on the nvidia website how to install them for your distro.
There’s three types of NVIDIA failures on Linux:
A- The niche thing that doesn’t work for the group of people who use it.
B- The specific card model that doesn’t work.
C- The distro that for some reason is a nightmare to install the drivers.
Each motive individually is not a lot of people, but all together it is way much more than AMD. Hence the difference.
Also, if you have a type A failure card, there’s a probability that maybe it will be fixed eventually. But for type B, you’re out of luck. There’s a non-zero chance that your card will never work.
Type C is entirely up to user error and distro effort. But it won’t help with type A and B. If NVIDIA of fails you, whether you can install the drivers on your distro or not, is irrelevant.
I think if they were planning this at all, we’d see linux support for maui. currently their linux use has been very focused on only for devs and servers
Maybe. If they do it’s going to represent a pretty dramatic shift away from backwards compatibility, which has always been the biggest defining characteristic of Windows. Probably not for Enterprise, but maybe for Personal?
Heck, you can’t even use it to give a slideshow without risking Windows Update deciding to reinstall your whole OS mid presentation! Ask me how I know.
There are several ways to prevent that. There’s a lot of valid criticism to be made about windows but it’s hard to take someone seriously who apparently doesn’t know how to use the OS.
I mean they did switch to their own flavor of their competitor with Edge already so it wouldn’t be a first.
I just hope that is they do this they won’t gain leverage to control the development of Linux for their own purposes in some way.
I didn’t know Edge was made with Chrome. No wonder it sucks
A little crazy, but not a lot crazy. ARM adoption may provide the spark necessary to ignite this fire.
This time I want the credit, so I’m posting my prediction publicly while everyone still thinks it’s ridiculous: I predict that within 15 years Microsoft will discontinue Windows in favor of a Windows themed Linux distribution.
People have been joking about a Windows DE atop the Linux kernel for a while now buddy, too late for you to call dibs
Giving a specific time range and making this prediction in earnest is well worth receiving some credit if it pans out.
Ya, I even wrote into a Linux podcast like 7 years ago making this exact prediction. It’s not new.
Joking? Or the ideas of a mad genius? (h/j)
I call dibs! I predicted a free (as in beer) windows OS 20 years ago!
“…Vista is overpriced…”
Ain’t that the truth
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Has been predicted for almost as long as the year of Linux on desktop.
Windows NT kernel was never an issue, Microsoft would encounter exact same issues they’re facing now since the pressure to monetise remains.
I’ll tell you more, MS already had their own Unix.
Xenix was the most common Unix variant during the mid- to late-1980s.
It’s called Microslop. Won’t you ever forget it
MS already has their own Linux distribution…
And their own Unix before that. And arguably their own Linux compatible kernel until they dropped that ball.
It would be in line with their usual EEE, so totally not surprising.
They don’t give two shits about brand loyalty as long as line go up.@0x0 @codeinabox it wouldn’t be EEE in this case. Because a Linux distribution is built up around thousands of packages from hundreds of various open source projects.
For EEE to work, the entire base OS stack would need to be extended with features not becoming useful outside Microsoft’s use. Such changes would first of all have a really hard time being accepted in upstream projects. And if they did, these projects would be forked if the last E phase in EEE is triggered. And then Microsoft would be alone with their Frankenstein distribution monster while the majority of the Linux users moves on to something better.
With Linux, there is no single instance of control or power. If a project takes a path people don’t like, it get forked. EEE requires Microsoft to cease full control of all the related pieces and components and kill the open source aspects of it.
That’s the advantage of open source licences. Once the source is out in the public, you can’t retract the source code afterwards, then it just forks.
Ever heard of android?
What standards would Microsoft EEE in this case? POSIX?
they might ship a proprietary lib with their os, encourage developers to use it, then license it out of being distributed
I imagine it’d be more like Android/iOS. Lock down bootloader so you can’t tamper with the OS, enforce notarisation requirement so that apps have to go through them. But Microsoft can’t do that, they don’t have any users vendor-locked to their application store. Valve on the other hand is in a much better position to do this.
The whole OS and user base.
That’s not what EEE is.
By all means do nitpick the specific meaning of EEE, might be amusing to others.
I just don’t like people throwing around terms they don’t understand, leads to weird outcomes like people saying Meta would EEE ActivityPub back when every instance decided to defederate Threads.
“A Windows themed Linux distribution” can’t really be “Windows themed” without some closed-source blobs and maybe even some backdoors sparkled here and there
@mmmm @codeinabox Sure it can.
Microsoft can distribute their Windows Desktop Environment for Linux in a repository they control. And that repo can even contain just the binaries, with their own proprietary licence. These packages can further have dependencies to other open source packages.
If Microsoft ends up with their own Linux distribution or just mirrors an existing distro (like what Alma/Rocky does with RHEL, or Ubuntu with Debian) … That depends on how much control they want over the Linux distro base OS.
But they certainly have the possibility to add a Windows experience as an alternative to GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc, etc, building on top of a shared base OS layer. As well as providing WINE like layers to make existing Windows programs run in that environment.
Android is a Linux distribution like that and once notarisation requirement is implemented it’ll be indistinguishable from iOS. SteamOS will also likely become gradually more like iOS to appease creators of popular multiplayer games.
I can’t imagine Valve making that kind of heel turn on their (mostly) open-source philosophy. They’re marketing their whole hardware line as your hardware to do whatever you want with, going closed garden after the fact would throw away a lot of good will.
It would be very hard to imagine that Android would look as it does now 15 years ago when it was almost fully open source and AOSP had all necessities included sans device-specific firmware blobs.
I haven’t seen any indication that Valve sells their Steam Machine as an open platform, more that they dishonestly advertise it as „runs all your Steam games” (but they don’t include Windows license to actually do that).
Locking down SteamOS won’t appear as a heel flip when it comes because it’ll happen gradually. Introduce little friction here and there, slowly herding people towards preferred but optional measures, until they’re no longer optional.
