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Yet another attempt at a “lesser evil” just how bluesky appeared to exist. Its essentially the same thing but wrapped in a “European made” wrapper, even it’s policies are the same.
Europe has the capacity to make good software yet garbage like W gets the spot light. Instead of glorifying the aspect that it is European made, consider the quality it provides.
Mastodon is the perfect example here as it both satisfies quality standards and isn’t based in fascist america.
America bad so switch to EU. Oh no, EU bad now, so switch to something else?
Just use something decentralized, fucking hell. Stop having such blind loyalty to countries.
Left X when it was Twitter. Currently using Mastadon, Lemmy, Piefed. Will try W.
Let’s support W and see how it goes.I was hoping they’d call it Twitter
Imagine Elon isn’t letting that trademark expire. Only valuable thing left from that $54b.
Just revoke the trademark in Europe
In USA, after 3 years of no use and no intent by the owner to use you can challenge a trademark
Bluesky’s original “invite only but each person can invite” makes way more sense for bot management than “requiring photo identification” that can’t be verified and can be generated by ai.
Interestingly they’re basing it off the Bluesky atproto architecture. Seems like they’re keeping controlled sign-ups and setting the appview to only index (and only display) their own users.
And if they don’t break protocol compatibility, others could have a “read-only view” of their network from servers / clients that federate (comparable to a lemmy server which would reject incoming messages but still let you browse)
requiring user identification and photo verification to prevent bots
Can’t wait until the next next big thing: “F”, for “Fuck you”.
I know that’s not going to be popular around here, but I am kind of curious what an “everyone is a confirmed user” social media site would actually look like, compared to the “whoever has the most bots gets shoved to the top of the rankings” cesspool we have now.
Social media was a mistake. We should have stuck to small forums. Same with real life tbh. Shit, have I become an anarchist now?
It would probably be the same content-wise. The bots are put there by people that wants to push an agenda. If we somehow reach a point where such a network with only live, confirmed humans exists, they’ll still push their points I guess. After all, we already see prominent account posting batshit crazy thing under their real name, so that would not change much.
And, yeah. It’s not really being an anarchist to think smaller, closer spaces are a good idea. Worldwide, almost universal social connection all the time, even without the constant barrage of garbage, is bound to completely overload our brain. Focusing on smaller communities, hand in these for a limited/controlled duration, things that actual matters, sounds really nice. It’s more of a “technical minimalism”, if we keep things digital.
Government will still have bots though, you will be at their mercy, and any disagreement they can retaliate in ways that aren’t apparent to you that you will never be able to prove. Hell they could even use secret social scores from their all encompassing surveillance they are trying to implement right now to decide what information your search pages are allowed to show you, to affect what prices you pay online, to decide if you get that job, that loan. If the police watch you, if they charge you, how hard the courts hit you.
With peter thiels owned corporations making those social scores.
Bots will simply use a random id card from the millions of stolen ids
They should have named it Wayland…
What a dumb name. This whole Twitter -> X rebranding was stupid to begin with, why would one imitate that?
Also - Mastodon?
Mastodon needs a complete rebranding. Name change, logo, UI, and made to be even easier for the average consumer to use, before it’s even considered a competitive microblog site.
I designed MULTIVERSE’s branding so it’s easy to use for people who don’t know what a PieFed is. I’ve shown this website to people who are complete normies when it comes to IT, and they understand how to use it. They don’t need to know about federation or tankies or protocols, they just need to be antirealists, and they get it.
Which is to say, branding can be totally up to instance owners, it doesn’t matter what the software brands itself as.
What about surrealists
They’re on sdf and they’re awesome. Book good phone bad
Does it? Also there is so many frontends to choose from and so many other projects. What normal people needs to realize is that they are played and the whole “But there is so much choice” argument is stupid. Imagine going to the shop where there is one type of bread called bread (super easy to use, without crust so people without teeth can chew), one type of milk (cause with bother with people having different preferences), one type of pasta etc. The more choice the better and federated networks offer exactly that. You can walk into the store and choose product you like for whatever reason. But no matter what type of bread you choose, you can still make sandwich. And this whole “W” thing is an easy money grab. Create some media attention, grab VC/European funding and create shitty clone noone will use, then say “Well looks like US corporate offerings are better afterall. Oh look democrats are back”.
So the user is just stupid eh 😉
It’s like choosing a linux distribution. When you know how the fediverse works, it’s easy, but when you don’t, you don’t want to hear that “it’s just like email!!”.
It has to just work without any kind of choice what so ever, IMO, or loads of people just won’t bother. Look at Signal, slick as hell, still people prefer big corp stuff…
What I’m trying to say is convenience is king.
So the user is just stupid eh 😉
Not sure I have said that. I think the problem is users somehow treat software different. Explaining them advantages of federated services over the corporate silos is something that will help them. I am talking about education and not that someone is stupid. In that sense everyone is stupid because you never know everything.
It’s like choosing a linux distribution. When you know how the fediverse works, it’s easy, but when you don’t, you don’t want to hear that “it’s just like email!!”. Why not? The fundamental understanding of how something works is important. I was that person in the past and understanding the idea of distros and abundance of choice is what drew me into Linux (20+ years ago). I don’t see why this should be avoided, but even if, there are major ditros that are ready to use out of the box which most of the new users endup using.
It has to just work without any kind of choice what so ever,
Why? Why does it have to work like this. Why is email working differently without the problem but other things do not. How do you want to resolve this in services that use FEDERATION as the main selling point. Randomly assign new users to servers? This will either lead to dumping people on servers that are unstable, totally alien in terms of local content or if you want to be the safe side and assign poeple to established big server, contradicting the fundamental core feature of decentralization. It’s like expecting every single alternative to be the exact clone of the big corp. Why not add algorythms since otherwise people might find it hard to discover content, why not more funding through VC or ads to compete with big ones marketing product. This can’t be the same as the corp. stuff because it has been created to be different. And it’s not that peopel are stupid and thats why they dont use it. Majority of people did not hear about the alternative and/or do not see the benefit it brings.
Also IMO it does “just work”. And is pretty slick as a default if I compare it to the state of federated services 15 years ago. It’s pretty convenient if you just want to use it. It’s not like you NEED to spend days researching servers. Mastodon’s main landing page provides onboarding to that. IMO the problem as your Signal example comes down to the fact that big corp operates with marketing budget that is no match for anyone, even Signal. This is the main reason it does not gotten traction. I just hope people will see the added value in community hosted services.
They have a cute logo and posts being called toots is the best thing ever. No idea what you’d want to change on Mastodon
Europe is trying to lock down the internet, connect everything said, every page viewed, to every account and ip by id and likeness, into databanks and combine it and every other piece of information on you to run through half baked ai threat detection to create secret social scores.
So you can yay getting rid of x, you are still surrendering to tech, to palantir type companies making those social scores. Hope you support Israel, aren’t an environmental protester for starters. Better correct your wrongthinks europe.
But the kids, we have to institute mandatory colonoscopies to protect them, nevermind those kids will fall victim en masse to the surveillance state past despots couldn’t even dream of, run by the worst people.
Zionist Larry Ellison is behind this
It is bigger than just him. Tech is behind it and their billionaires, thiel and his faction. Ashton kutcher, douchebag actor, leads this charity to protect kids by complete suveillance, in europe, they are bankrolled by tech. Someone linked an article a few months back from like balkan insights or something digging into chatcontrol backers, I cannot find it on my own because search engines no longer try to give what you ask.
they are also likely using palintir to achieve it too, i remember it being peddled to the eu for a few months already.
requiring user identification and photo verification
And so they’ve failed before they’ve begun.
These are the same guys trying to institute chatcontrol and age verification to identify everyone to every account, to Tech, that would share it with them in government. Trying to surrender their citizens to tech and “AI,” they don’t think they will fail because they think they will be locking down society into a dystopian surveillance state where wrongthink will be crushed, enlightenment and age of reason be damned.
Europea (continent) is not one guy or his friends (guys). It has EU in it, UK in it, some ideologically opposing countries etc. Russia is in this continent. Turkey too!
What is your point? They are trying to lock down the internet is mine. Id’ing everyone is part of that. Making this project part of that. Making it lose any appeal, a project that will fail because it’s backers hate freedom.
They should have called it XXX.
Or XOFF
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mastodon is also european.
Yeah it’s a stupid title. Some people are trying to make the most of the moment and start their own social network.
This makes it sound like this is an EU-mandated social network.
Why not M?
