Limited liability companies are “limited” in the sense that there are limitations on the responsibilities of the members of the corporation. The CEO can’t be held personally liable for the actions of the company, for example; their underlings could have been responsible and kept the leader in the dark.
However, there’s this interesting legal standard wherein it is possible to “pierce the corporate veil” and hold corporate leadership personally liable for illegal actions their company took, if you can show that by all reasonable standards they must or should have known about the illegal activity.
Anyway Elon has been elbow-deep in the inner workings of Xitter for years now, by his own admission, right? Really getting in there to tinker and build new stuff, like Grok and its image generation tools. Seems like he knows an awful lot about how that works. An awful lot.
Oh man the last three years have been rough on him.
Hopefully the next three are worse.
Having giant growths in your bladder that mean you can’t pee when you want to, and can’t stop peeing when you don’t want to, will wear ya down.
I hear he’s doing ketamine about it, which may not be the best idea because ketamine got him there…
I thought he was the giant growth on his bladder.
The CEO can’t be held personally liable for the actions of the company, for example; their underlings could have been responsible and kept the leader in the dark.
The onus should be on the company to prove their employees kept the CEO in the dark, not the other way around.
The law is a funny creature. I own a business myself (just started, actually!) and it would suck to be brought up on charges I have no idea about but I’m being held personally liable for. I’m grateful for the LLC protection in that case. Of course, I’m also not planning on committing any crimes, nor having my business commit crimes, so it’s a minor worry. Really only important in the event the law gets weaponised against the people, say for example by a foreign asset in high office… 😬
So you like the benefit of being on top of the hierarchy without the responsibility.
Congrats.
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I’m editing my response, 'cause you know what? You don’t know anything about me, my business, or my ethics. You have no standing to judge my character, and based on the fact that you have anyway, I don’t care to know anything else about you or engage with you further.
The problem is that once the law has been weaponized against the people, the only laws that matter are the ones they are using to harm you.
Yes, that is indeed the fact I was downplaying as “minor”. I have an even bigger target on my back, and I’m a lot less mobile with all my assets tied up like this.
Funnest part about this is that muskrat is renowned for shoving his dick into the business workings
That is a tricky question. IT isn’t just does the CEO know, but should the CEO have known. If you make a machine that injures people the courts ask should you have expected that.
The first time someone uses a lawnmower the cut a hedge the companies and gets hurt can say “we never expected someone to be that stupid” - but we now know people do such stupid things and so if you make a lawn mower and someone uses it to cut a hedge the courts will ask why you didn’t stop them - the response is then we can’t think of how to stop them but look at the warnings we put on.
When Grok was first used to make porn X can get by with “we didn’t think of that”. However this is now known. They now need to do more to stop it. there are a number of options. Best is fix Grok so it can’t do that; they could also just collect enough information on users that when it happens the police can arrest the person who instructed grok. There are a number of other options, if the court accepts them depends on if the tool is otherwise useful and if whatever they do reduces the amount of porn (or whatever evil) that gets through - perfection isn’t needed but it needs to get close.
Elon is a disgusting human being.
Paid for by the US taxpayers who keep giving Elmo more money to not do projects, but do this shit instead
I don’t watch PBS News Hour but my parents do and I have to listen to it from time to time. They characterized this issue as one of Grok creating “explicit” AI images and artificially generating pictures of real women (not “girls”) in “bathing suits”. Not exactly an accurate characterization of CSAM.
it does it to pictures of real 12 year olds and nudes too, not just the nazi bikinis (but also that)
And that’s the “leftist propaganda” according to MAGA. PBS and NPR have so overcorrected, and in exchange have gotten nothing but defunded
In my opinion, the rightward correction has gotten even worse since the defunding. For a long time now they’ve run a graphic showing their corporate sponsors before each broadcast (Meta and oil companies often show up there). They love to say it’s “viewers like you” that make them possible, but I think the corporate sponsors are a lot more important. It’s been a very long time since the government funding has even been that big a chunk of their income.
hope this expels the remaining too inertial people still using x
Why is Grok not being charged with CSAM generation?
Have you seen who’s in charge of our government? They’re probably the ones making the prompts
Because the US seems to be supportive of it. They lashed out at governments who’ve said to resolve it or face site bans.
Hmmm. And this is the work of the ‘Genius at Davos’, you say? And where was the electricity generated … that state that ran out of electric for weeks a few years back?
I do wonder when an image of someone goes from child to adult
How do they decide when the character isnt real and has no age?
The images are being generated by editing photos of real children. It’s not fictional characters. This is discussed in the article and has been widely reported as this issue has been in the news.
If even Grok shut down completely, it doesn’t mean anything. Pandora’s box is open and AI generated porn is here to stay. There are soooooooooooooooo many websites that exist just to generate deepfake nudes and AI porn. You take down one, another 100 pop up. It’s a futile game of whackamole.
Even if we passed laws banning this shit, the technology that enables it to be a thing is free, open source, and can very easily be modified to do precisely this. Anybody can run these models locally at any time, and nobody can do a thing about it. Basically what I’m trying to say is that we’re cooked.
I agree.
It’s fine if people want to get mad about it, but it’s more effective to just learn to live with it because it’s not going away.
I mean, yeah, but it’s one thing if some perv’s running it on their own box after reading 5 guides vs. elon musk having a tiwtter bot that does it for you without even trying to stop it from doing that even after knowing it’s doing it. the former is unavoidable, the latter is a choice he’s made for some fucking reason
I mean agree that we should prevent it in such obvious cases like this, I was just making the point that this is going to be a very persistent issue.
MUsk is strongly associated with “ms kung fu” lady, and epstein, so im not surprised.
See, though, there aren’t any consequences for illegal actions by the filthy rich. That’s why they’re better than the poors.
Grok must be outlawed, it’s truly sickening!
Grok didn’t make itself.
Don’t worry, I’ve heard they limited this wonderful feature to paid accounts.
Isn’t it about 53k per violation?
Why does it say that Grok is doing this? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that real people are using Grok as a tool to create this shit? Like place the blame where it belongs.
“Twitter users use child porn machine to make millions of images of child porn.” Would be accurate imho. Legally though AI generated works are owned by no one because the machine made it but cant own it.
This is what I want to know. It doesn’t do anything unless someone tells it to. Why aren’t the people telling it to make child porn being held accountable? My 3D printer can make guns, but they won’t send the printer to jail if I decide to tell it to make one.
The blame kinda rests with the creators of the tool as well as the “content” creators, no? And isn’t it more important to inform people about what a service is allowing than pointing out what specific users are doing? This is ultimately a reflection of X as well as X users.
btw if you or anyone still uses X, it’s fair to assume you’re a pedo and or a nazi.
X is for nazi pedos
