Also found in a !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com post by @biltong@piefed.co.za : https://piefed.co.za/c/fedibridge/p/22233/post-on-r-buyfromeu-on-the-recent-surge-of-users-to-piefed
I like the way Voyager does it:
DeltaChat also has a very easy onboarding process: you just put your name, and that’s it. The app creates the password in the background and allows you to switch servers easily. That really helps with onboarding new joiners.
Piefed.zip could be a nice default choice. If there are others you see, feel free to suggest.
I’m afraid that icankillpenguins might be right. That most people don’t really know what a server is, so when asked to pick one they freeze
My thoughts, numbered only for potential referencing
- I guess for now it could be managed by hand which server they get routed to. But that’s not an ideal solution IMO
- I think that idea of checking response speeds is a good idea
- keeping option to read the instance’s description and choose another one is a good idea
- theoretically, joining a general instance vs an opinionated one might not work for those that are not opinionated or are opinionated the other way. So I think it should be discussed if instances should be able to mark themselves as general or opinionated and the initial choice be from among the general ones
- it would be a good idea to somehow rotate between proposed instances based on MAU or some other metric
I signed up a minute ago, and I was so confused (still am, tbh). But luckily there was the button “I dont know, help” me, which scrolled down a centimeter, which was actually not that helpful :D
Well you made a good decision! If you still need help, look here:
maybe like p2p/torrent? prioritise based on some mathematical equation involving bandwidth, users and server stability
if this means a few big pro run servers end up taking the dominant share is this really a bad thing so long as other servers are available?
I’d say for the health of decentralisation we don’t really want to encourage any server having more than ~15% of users.
If 10k new Piefed users show up tomorrow if is better to lose them or to have them on two instances that would both have 40% of the userbase?
It’s better to keep them for sure. I’m just saying in a perfect world.
With the servers and setup we have now it’s probably best if they just end up and the most stable wel run instances (as I’ve been pointing then to)
Gonna say it again, but I like there being a minor barrier to entry on Lemmy. Like, if you can’t even be bothered to pick a server then we don’t want you here. If you want your social media to be spoon fed to you, fuck right off. If you want a reddit or Facebook clone, you’re part of the problem.
Having a basic understanding of the Fediverse should be a prerequisite. Having to choose a server is a feature, a bare minimum. And as much as I want to see more content and more engagement here, I don’t want to see it dumbed down either.
I don’t like the idea of a default server, because someday it will be the wrong one.
Much like recommending Linux I’m sure to specify “Linux Mint” and when I recommend XMPP I’m sure to specify jabber.org.
But it sounds like we could just be pointing newbies to Voyager or Piefed for awhile? I like various apps having a default, because we can always start recommending different app, if there’s issues.
Honestly if this extremely low barrier keeps out the Facebook crowd then it’s doing God’s work.
The problem with your suggestion is that it creates centralization. See Mastodon.social, matrix.org, etc.
The solution, I have posted before, is to ask instances to be opted into a directory, and then present the user with a random suggestion from that list. There should be some basic criteria like uptime and a proper set of rules laid out of course.
Lemmy.ml isn’t the largest Lemmy instance
Piefed.social will probably go the same way once rimu decides to shut down the registrations to keep hardware costs manageable.
Your suggestion would be doable if there was another long established, up-to-date , generalist, non-flagship Piefed instance, but as of now I only know Piefed.zip
Piefed.ca is Canadian focused
Blahaj is queer focused
Piefed.world is vastly outdated
Anarchist.nexus is, well, anarchist
Isn’t Lemmy.ml the default in Jerboa?
As it says in OP, none of that matters.
I’m not @ada@piefed.blahaj.zone , but I’m quite sure they prefer to avoid waves of new joiners from Reddit signing up on their instance without knowing it’s a queer safe space
We have an application process. If they don’t show recognition of the fact it’s a queer safe space, they don’t get approved. We’ve also got a matrix bot to help trusted users approve signups, so we can handle volume ok as well!
It should just default to the last instance cm0002 commented from.
