• arglebargle@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Hybrid sucks. It’s like the worst of both worlds.

    If you are going to have meeting with remote and in office, never have anyone in a meeting room.

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      8 months ago

      As a hybrid worker myself, I honestly enjoy it. I’ve got an open office with a couple of new hires that I’m mentoring. I can bother people at their desks, rather than fighting to schedule them over Teams for a five minute talk. Lunch spots downtown are genuinely good and I can stretch my legs a bit walking around.

      Then I’ve got W/F to myself at home, so I can roll out of bed and dive in and eat out of my fridge.

      The worst part about my job, atm, is that all our DBAs are these overseas contractors who are constantly coming and going and don’t know our systems past whatever documentation got telephone-gamed to them over three prior managers. Would love for a little less work from a trans-Pacific timezone home, tbh.

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        8 months ago

        Seems like your documentation should be out in the open not sent over to them. You should all be looking at the same thing.

        Bothering people at thier desk is exactly what I do not want. Why not put your question into teams or what ever you use, and it will get answered when they have time?

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          8 months ago

          Seems like your documentation should be out in the open not sent over to them.

          Take that up with my utterly dysfunctional security-through-obscurity obsessed managers.

          Bothering people at thier desk is exactly what I do not want. Why not put your question into teams or what ever you use, and it will get answered when they have time?

          Because Teams is constantly ringing, as everyone is on a dozen different groups with back-and-forth that they aren’t really a part of. So we’ve stopped paying attention to Teams messages in real time.

          Also, sometimes its easier to carry a laptop over to someone and show them a thing with a simple question than to Teams in and share screen when they’ve got a dozen things up on their own monitors.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah, I was think about that with teams. Mine doesn’t ring or notify, I will get it when I get it. It’s like IRC: you just ask the question.

            In the end if it works for you that’s great. My biggest problem is hybrid meetings. A roomful of people and a bunch of remotes makes them a mess.

            Either everyone in one place, or no one.

            For me remote is great. I keep a lot of wasted time stopped because I force documentation as a requirement. If there is a question needing asked, it and the answer gets written down, or it wasn’t worth asking in the first place.

            I like spending my time in other cities and countries instead of commuting.

            Edit. I wanted to add that you make a good point inadvertently about local businesses downtown. A lot of them were hurting without the foot traffic so that’s a positive.

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              8 months ago

              My biggest problem is hybrid meetings. A roomful of people and a bunch of remotes makes them a mess.

              Oh, yes. That’s awful. But then most large participatory meets are awful, just because its hard to engage that many people for any extended period of time. Unless you’re just doing a quick presentation, large meetings almost always feel like a waste of time.

              For me remote is great. I keep a lot of wasted time stopped because I force documentation as a requirement.

              Getting documentation out of my coworkers is like pulling teeth. Everyone does things their own way and its almost never recorded in a central (much less organized) repository. One of my tasks over the last year has been about changing that, but even just getting a central Sharepoint repository that lots of people can access has been difficult.

              Having a crowd of people in the office I can bother physically has been - in my experience - much more efficient than firing off emails or Teams notices that can be easily ignored.

              Edit. I wanted to add that you make a good point inadvertently about local businesses downtown. A lot of them were hurting without the foot traffic so that’s a positive.

              I’ve worked in offices for a while, and there’s definitely a difference between the “run out for a Subway sandwich then get back to work ASAP” and “meander down to the Tonkotsu ramen spot and chat with the owner while you enjoy some mid-day leisure time”. If you’re living the former, I get why WFH is orders of magnitude better. If you’re enjoying the latter, it feels like you’re being robbed if you can’t experience the nicer parts of the city that you’re ostensibly earning enough money to live in.

              Why even have a good job in a nice city if you can’t go out and do the things that these cities are known for?

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      8 months ago

      People talk about quiet quitting a lot so I looked it up. That just sounds like doing your job without trying to get ahead.

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        8 months ago

        More like intentionally dragging your team down and making your teammates pick up your slack until management has gone through all the written warning steps required to fire your ass.

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          Still their loss, firing you means paying out that severance they tried to dodge by inviting the quiet quitting in the first place

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            8 months ago

            Not true. If terminated for performance concerns, most companies would consider that “for cause” meaning that you would be ineligible for severance. The only costs are the OpEx of the manager and HR team member’s time in addition to the “lost productivity” that your underperformance caused.