The Left Party says “there shouldn’t be any billionaires.” With Germany gearing up for an election, the far-left force has launched a new tax plan — though it will most likely never get a chance to implement it.

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    2 months ago

    World watches as majority of all humans on the planet slowly loose their wealth and ability to sustain themselves: … meh, can’t do much about it

    Someone suggests we should take wealth of wealthiest people even though it wouldn’t really hurt them anyway: … WWIII it is!

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      The people think about it and feel bad for those billionaires because the people think they are just temporarily inconvenienced billionaires themselves, and when their billions come in they don’t want anyone taking their billions away.

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        When I was young people were temporary inconvenienced millionaires, where are we heading?!

        :-)

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      What I truly don’t understand is, let’s say that the billionaires completely “win” and we’re all of their servants in some way. Who is going to actually protect them or serve them? Do they think they’ll be sitting in that bunker and everyone around them will cook for them and protect them from the people wanting to steal what they have? The extremely more likely scenario is that people just go in and take they what they want, servant, neighbor, whatever. They won’t be safe, lol. Desperate people will take you down to save their own family.

      I now know why there are always these loyal servants in movies that fight with the master to the end. It’s the wealthy paying for scripts to plant the seed, lol.

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        This is frustratingly naive. Do you think there’s no one who will offer protection in exchange for an extra scoop of porridge? Throughout history, most soldiers didn’t fight for acause…they did it for the paycheck. Billionaires already have an entourage, there will always be people under their umbrellas.

        Hell, forget about the money…you don’t think there’s anyone who would gladly take a bullet for Elon Musk in exchange for nothing?

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            “I’m looking for 50 guys to defend my compound. You can live there and eat for free”

            Nobody’s taking that offer when they’re desperate?

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              Lol, they would absolutely take that offer. Have you ever lived in the South? They would then go there and do whatever, and I mean whatever, they want.

              ETA: Do you think people wouldn’t do it because they have morals or ethics about it or something? Even if you’re a fan of Musk, it wouldn’t be for long and he would be gone.

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    Unfortunally they also want to replace NATO with an alliance with Russia … so they are unelectable.

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      It’s actually not a bad idea:

      Step 1: concede Ukrainian territories, end the war.

      Step 2: have Ukraine join the EU.

      Step 3: get EU out of NATO

      Step 4: ally with Russia and also get them into EU

      Suddenly all the territories that Ukraine lost are… meaningless, because they are in the same supra national entity.

      Radical, I know. But Russia has always been part of Europe.

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      The party of non violence except for self defense wants to stop participating in imperialist forever wars?

      How shocking!

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        The green party (Bündnis 90/Die Grünen) is moderate left and fully supporrs Ukraine. I’m probably gonna vote for them. The war is only going a few years yet, so I wouldn’t call it a “forever war”. I’ve seen a lot of wars come and go in my lifetime and I think this one will end in a few more years or less. It’s just very important to teach russia a lesson, they can’t just attack others without serious consequences. It’s not just important for Ukraines future, but for all mankind. Ukraine and the heroes risking and giving their life on the battlefield for our future deserve our full support for teaching russia that lesson. If the war ends before russia learns that, they will soon attack another friendly neighbour, so it’s either fight now or fight even more later. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes you just gotta resist and fight back for a better future.

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          The green party is as bellicist as it gets. It supported every single military intervention INCLUDING IRAQ. You guys are literally voting for the baddies

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          It’s incredibly easy to teach others lessons when you have nothing at risk, now or in the future.

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            Ukraine risks a lot to teach that lesson and they have my full support. It’s not easy tho, because there are people like you trying to send us all to our doom.

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              Yes, it’s easy to teach lessons when you are taking no risk and losing nothing.

              It’s not so great for the Ukrainians who were forcibly drafted at the end of a gun, so Germany can teach Russia a lesson.

              If you think any of nuclear Europe is ever at any risk from Russia, you’re too stupid to breathe, much less have an opinion on the matter.

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                You are arguing in super-bad faith.

                No one is forcing Ukraine to right but Russia.

                How in your mind does not sending them help teach anyone a lesson? Fuck allies who are defending themselves?

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                  No, I’m disagreeing with you. That’s not arguing in bad faith and trying to claim that is simply nonsense to protect your echo chamber generated views.

                  You’re right, no one is forcing Ukraine to fight Russia, except every international aid agency. Oh and Black Rock now that they’ve purchased large swaths of Ukrainian land. But more importantly Ukraine isn’t it’s people. It’s never been a democratic state by any standards, until 2014 it was downright considered despotic. But that government that does not have consent from the majority of its people is forcibly conscripting men off the street to fight and die in a war they clearly don’t want to fight. While this is happening the Ukrainian government has massively enriched itself.

                  Not sending them help, and instead treating them like any other war victim would be the fair thing. Take in the refugees. Resettle anyone that doesn’t want to speak Russian or go to the meat grinder. Sanction Russia.

                  Ukraine isn’t an ally to anyone, it’s an investment opportunity for billionaires. That’s about it. Let’s not depopulate it and let the land be given away.

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            First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

            Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

            Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

            Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


            The risk for not helping the Ukrainians is that this will set precedence the collapse of the international order and institution that prevented major wars since World War 2, because the international charter explicitly forbids violating another nation’s sovereignty. If no one speaks out or support Ukraine, then it will be you and your loved ones next in the next world war.

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              Don’t you fucking dare recite the anti liberal poem against me from a .world account.

              Also, what fucking bullshit are you speaking? Nearly every EU country has violated no less than a dozen countries since WWII. If we extend that to the West in general then you people have been the most pervasive war mongers in modern history.

              Oh right, those countries weren’t majority white. They don’t count.

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                  Yes, every one that disagrees with you are NPCs bots. You’re the real humans and the only ones that exist. All those damn coloureds non westerners just aren’t human you know.

                  Man you guys have been mask off lately.

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      That’s a sentiment that will only continue to increase for as long as the war remains a stalemate and we don’t see any results for the billions we’re pouring in.

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        The result is the prolonged lives and freedoms of every single person the wretched fascist Putin wants to destroy. I dare you to tell a single child in Ukraine that keeping them alive is too expensive. We stand united.

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          Fully agreed that the EU must do everything it can to protect the lives of children. That’s why in addition to what you say, we just break free from NATO and being complicit in the genocide in Gaza, which killed orders of magnitude more children than war in Ukraine.

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    There are one too many words there.

    Halve billionaires. At the waist, or from groin to nose, I’m not fussy.

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    I don’t support it because I intend to become a billionaire one day (shut up, I’m not fixing that ice cream machine)

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    Title is biased. The left party wants to share the stolen wealth of billionaires among the people.

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    Its obvious, but for some reason also rage inducing, that for every billionaire with at least 2 billion in wealth, taking half their wealth has them remain a billionaire. If you take half the wealth of some average individual they’re probably going from “sort of getting by” to “heavily at risk”