• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    3 months ago

    The existence of Project 2025 makes all of the “which candidate is better?” discussion completely irrelevant. If you support the people that support Project 2025 then you’re a bootlicker who wants to end popular representation in the government and replace it with authoritarianism. If you are vocally against the people who oppose Project 2025 then you are collaborating with the enemy.

    Any other option is better.

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      3 months ago

      The existence of Project 2025

      Republicans have a shitty pre-election plan in the run up to every election. This isn’t any different than every other election cycle, from the perspective of “Bad Republicans promise to do bad things”.

      Any other option is better.

      The illusion of electoral choice is choking the life out of any actual democracy in this country. Time and time again, we’re told which party is The Worst and that Anyone Else Would Be Better. That’s how Trump won in 2016 ffs. Republicans doomed themselves to a decade of this manic fascist bumblefuckery by whipping themselves into an “Anyone but Hillary!” feeding frenzy.

      If you are vocally against the people who oppose Project 2025 then you are collaborating with the enemy.

      You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists!

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        The illusion of electoral choice is choking the life out of any actual democracy in this country.

        Ok so what’s your plan to fix it? Because I have one: vote for people that want to improve the electoral system and against those that want to prevent it from improving. As much as Democrats are “part of the problem”, they’ve also been open to runoff voting, switching to a national popular vote, easier voting mechanisms, and other changes that would allow for third parties and better representation. Republicans, meanwhile, have been trying to prevent those changes, as they’ve done in 5 states now where they banned ranked choice voting.

        To be fair though, Trump is more open to changing the electoral process. The only problem is, he wants to get rid of voting entirely and remove any option we have to prevent rule by wealthy oligarchs like himself.

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    3 months ago

    It’s stunning that each party managed to find a candidate that could lose against the other.

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      If the election was today, Biden would lose. Imagine if Trump wasn’t the nominee for November, the GOP would win the presidency.

      Edit: it’s just reality according to the current polling.

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            There it is again.

            The disconnect that exists is that people don’t see the good things he does. You know, green energy, chips act, unions, drug price controls, student debt relief, telling them to look at marijuana rescheduling, infrastructure building. It just goes on and on. You’re doing mental gymnastics to say B-B-Biden bad! Ciao.

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                Lol you all caps shouted “YES” agreeing to what I said and literally said “Biden is bad”.

                Bare minimum huh? Back to your mental gymnastics. Biden’s doing fucking great.

                You want more? He doesn’t even have control of the house of representatives. If you want more give him and Dems consistent and resounding victories.

                I think this is where I inform you that Dems have had control of all three (house, Senate, and presidency) for a whooping 4 years of the last 24 years. If you include Bill Clinton, then it’s 6 of the last 32 years. You want more progress? Give Dems consistent and resounding victories. Not a measly half term every second president.

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      Its not that stunning. In fact, its more common than you’d guess.

      Only Ford could lose to Carter. Only Dukakis could lose to Bush. Only Hillary could lose to Trump. Hindsight 20/20. Foresight blind as a fucking bat.

  • Leviathan@lemmy.world
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    I think Trump retiring and the Republicans replacing him with a charismatic, young, intelligent christofascist would be devastating for the Democrats (and humanity) right now and I don’t know why they don’t do it.

    For that matter I don’t see why Democrats don’t replace Biden with a charismatic, young, intelligent social democrat which would be equally devastating for republicans. So who knows with these people.

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      Charismatic, intelligent people don’t need fascism nearly as much as dumbfucks do but even for the few who get sucked in anyway, there’s easier and more self-serving ways to express it than a grueling, always-on position in the Republican party.

      But ultimately the answer to both “why don’t they run someone actually good” questions is “because it would be a threat to neoliberals and their record profits”.

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        Neolibs can’t countenance that their darling politicians are actually right of Nixon, let alone admit it.

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    Biden won 2020 in spite of being Joe Biden, it’s why it took almost 40 years for him to win his first presidential primary, people just don’t ot want him as president.

    Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected…

    I really don’t think he can pull out another razor thin win like in 2020.

    We’re risking trump so we can have a Dem president that’s more conservative than Dem voters want.

    There’s no logic behind it, except the donor class would rather have trump than a progressive. And just like AIPAC, they decided it’s easiest to just buy both parties in the primary.

    This is the third election and a row, it’s not going to be different in 2028. If voters only requirement is “blue” then nothing is stopping either party from getting more and more conservative every election

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        3 months ago
        1. The genocide he’s not just supporting, but now actively involving US military in.

        2. Making trump border policies permanent law.

        3. Not fulfilling campaign promises

        But like, please don’t do that thing where because I didn’t list every little thing, that I’m saying the only issues with Biden are the ones I listed.

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            If you expected #1 and still voted for him…

            I dunno, but at least now people can’t act like they don’t understand how people voted for hitler.

            I expected this shit from republicans, but way too many people who call themselves Dems are just ok with genocide.

            Apparently all it took to get Dems to support genocide, is only give them the option of more genocide?

            And republicans are all about genocide, so now neither party can be counted on to be consistently against genocide?

            What I still don’t understand, is why so many of you are just ok with it.

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      Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected…

      He far exceeded my expectations.

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        3 months ago

        Everyone has different standards and expectations.

        Hell, look at how many people say that about trump.

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    3 months ago

    Man who closed the deal with 43k votes out of 5.7M across three pivotal states happy to report he has well over 80% of his original voter base behind him.