I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.

However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.

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    Maybe call a friend for help? That’s my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn’t want to look at it

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    For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.

    Fuck Meta.

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      That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook. Instagram, however…

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      Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
      They were always scummy.
      Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.

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      Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.

      But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.

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        No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.

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          Huh

          Edit: apparently I’ve angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever

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            I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.

            But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?

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      For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.

      The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.

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    I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.

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        Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.

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              Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services

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              Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.

              Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.

              Some witty political insights! Fuck off.

              Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.

              Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.

              Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.

              It’s just dumb.

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        I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.

        The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.

        Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.

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    I used a burner sim and a fake video. You could generate it with AI or even a good 3d model.

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    I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don’t even disagree with them!

    Just want to add my two cents.

    Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.

    However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.

    Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.

    Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.

    eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.

    Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay’s lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.

    I don’t even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it’s all a giant multi-corporate game that’s been played for 30 years.

    Then all kinds of different “out of the box” storefronts started to appear.

    Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji “honest”. They’ve gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.

    It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.

    That said, I’m not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.

    On one hand (I’m very biased towards the seller’s perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It’s been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.

    On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I’m not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.

    I really don’t know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don’t know what’s needed here.

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      On one hand

      C’mon, with a bit of effort you could have made this one into 5 paragraphs each one sentence long too!

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      …and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.

      As a buyer of random trash, I really don’t want anyone to know more than they have to. The only identifying details about me should be “paid $13.65 for a set of glittery plastic tableware.” In whatever ledger you keep for those sort of things.

      I got a promotional text message from a store I bought a single repair component from once in a state I never visited. It made me irrationally upset. I would not accuse you of such, but every action to verify someone’s “personhood” means that marketing types have that much more access to try to sell me junk.

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        I respect the security concern but none of what you are describing is how Facebook market works.

        If you got a text message, it’s because you gave them your number that’s your fault. Nobody has the ability to contact you outside of the marketplace ecosystem or messenger unless you specifically allow it.

        If you’re getting promotional messages, it’s because you opened a business chat with that organization.

        I’m basically saying learn.

        None of that has anything to do with not wanting to upload personal information to meta.

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    Wow. And here I thought MS all-screenshotting garbage was the peak of fucking over. Guess I need a bigger basket of popcorn

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      I’ve reported so many fake accounts and accounts promoting right wing violence or blatant racism and every single time they send a report back saying the account/comment doesn’t violate any rules.

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    These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.

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    Sucks. Facebook is trash. All ads are scammer mostly and all comments anywhere are just bots. It is the worst marketing platform.