You’re confusing cause and effect; democrats need to promise policy that improves people’s material conditions if they want people to vote for them, and use every single power at their disposal to prevent further harm until then to prove they will do as they say if they win. Nobody is going to vote for a party that they dont believe will help them.
You cant win while telling your own base “eat shit, what are you gonna do, not vote?”
There is also the fact that democrats lost in 2024, and 2016, and the way the dems lost the house and senate in 2010 after bailing out the banks for stealing people’s houses and giving the health insurance companies subsidies instead of giving us healthcare. Turns out when you do the opposite of what your base wants, fewer people vote.
Of course it did. Nothing was stopping you from voting to reduce harm. You were not destined by the stars to wield your privilege to hurt minorities while pretending that made you a hero.
The only way the dems can win is if they implement overwhelmingly popular left policy such as free healthcare, and fight the republicans using every tool at their disposal.
The only time we have seen dems accede to popular demand is when Biden had a less than 5% chance at winning.
Do you see where I’m going with this? Voting blue no matter who lets the DNC delude themselves into thinking they can win while running on dogshit policy. If we tell the dems the only way we will vote for them is if they do the thing they need to do to win anyway, they might actually do the things they need to do to win.
This thought process relies on an assumption that Americans are progressive in general. Which time and again, everywhere we look, that is just plain not something we see.
You don’t need to be progressive to understand “free healthcare”, and “free healthcare” polls better than “subsidies for insurance companies”. “Free college” polls better than “means-tested forgiveness for STEM grads who operate a business in an underserved neighborhood for 5 years”. The great thing about left policy is that you don’t need to trick people or gauge people’s political positions and try to match them against a 5 dimensional chart, you’re simply using the tools available to improve people’s material conditions and people will vote for it because the alternative is immediately worsening conditions. Look at europe, public healthcare is so popular even the conservatives need to pretend to support it.
You don’t need to be progressive to understand “free healthcare”, and “free healthcare” polls better than “subsidies for insurance companies”. “Free college” polls better than “means-tested forgiveness for STEM grads who operate a business in an underserved neighborhood for 5 years”. The great thing about left policy is that you don’t need to trick people or gauge people’s political positions and try to match them against a 5 dimensional chart, you’re simply using the tools available to improve people’s material conditions and people will vote for it because the alternative is immediately worsening conditions. Look at europe, public healthcare is so popular even the conservatives need to pretend to support it.
I wish you were right. America is VERY different from Europe though. Republicans don’t even pretend to support any of this – not sure where you got that.
“A healthcare plan is coming” and never present it is nowhere near “We’re going to give you free healthcare”. If they said that, most of their base would not vote.
In fact, you might argue a factor that re-elected Obama was that Romney was a candidate that had introduced something like Obamacare in MA. A ton of Republicans hated him specifically for that.
You’re confusing cause and effect; democrats need to promise policy that improves people’s material conditions if they want people to vote for them, and use every single power at their disposal to prevent further harm until then to prove they will do as they say if they win. Nobody is going to vote for a party that they dont believe will help them.
You cant win while telling your own base “eat shit, what are you gonna do, not vote?”
The only thing that tells you that is a common sense analysis of the situation
There is also the fact that democrats lost in 2024, and 2016, and the way the dems lost the house and senate in 2010 after bailing out the banks for stealing people’s houses and giving the health insurance companies subsidies instead of giving us healthcare. Turns out when you do the opposite of what your base wants, fewer people vote.
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that didn’t happen.
Of course it did. Nothing was stopping you from voting to reduce harm. You were not destined by the stars to wield your privilege to hurt minorities while pretending that made you a hero.
The only way the dems can win is if they implement overwhelmingly popular left policy such as free healthcare, and fight the republicans using every tool at their disposal.
The only time we have seen dems accede to popular demand is when Biden had a less than 5% chance at winning.
Do you see where I’m going with this? Voting blue no matter who lets the DNC delude themselves into thinking they can win while running on dogshit policy. If we tell the dems the only way we will vote for them is if they do the thing they need to do to win anyway, they might actually do the things they need to do to win.
This thought process relies on an assumption that Americans are progressive in general. Which time and again, everywhere we look, that is just plain not something we see.
You don’t need to be progressive to understand “free healthcare”, and “free healthcare” polls better than “subsidies for insurance companies”. “Free college” polls better than “means-tested forgiveness for STEM grads who operate a business in an underserved neighborhood for 5 years”. The great thing about left policy is that you don’t need to trick people or gauge people’s political positions and try to match them against a 5 dimensional chart, you’re simply using the tools available to improve people’s material conditions and people will vote for it because the alternative is immediately worsening conditions. Look at europe, public healthcare is so popular even the conservatives need to pretend to support it.
You don’t need to be progressive to understand “free healthcare”, and “free healthcare” polls better than “subsidies for insurance companies”. “Free college” polls better than “means-tested forgiveness for STEM grads who operate a business in an underserved neighborhood for 5 years”. The great thing about left policy is that you don’t need to trick people or gauge people’s political positions and try to match them against a 5 dimensional chart, you’re simply using the tools available to improve people’s material conditions and people will vote for it because the alternative is immediately worsening conditions. Look at europe, public healthcare is so popular even the conservatives need to pretend to support it.
I wish you were right. America is VERY different from Europe though. Republicans don’t even pretend to support any of this – not sure where you got that.
“A healthcare plan is coming” and never present it is nowhere near “We’re going to give you free healthcare”. If they said that, most of their base would not vote.
In fact, you might argue a factor that re-elected Obama was that Romney was a candidate that had introduced something like Obamacare in MA. A ton of Republicans hated him specifically for that.