The slap fight between Donald Trump and Elon Musk has highlighted the absurdity of keeping so much of our space program and satellite internet infrastructure in the hands of a single oligarch.
  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1312·
    6 months ago

    No, they’re fine remaining as private companies. If the government wants to better control over the companies then they can pass regulation and if they want total control then they can build their own alternatives. Nationalization of companies should never be used as a political weapon.

  • Subverb@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    6 months ago

    One way to get businesses to move their factories back to the US due to tarrifs: Start nationalizing them.

    /s

  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.worldEnglish
    362·
    6 months ago

    Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.

    Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    6 months ago

    I wouldn’t nationalize anything long as the orange could possibly profit off it

  • Bloomcole@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    6 months ago

    NOW they complain about giving Musk money?
    Most of the 38 billion was given by Biden.

  • seven_phone@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1511·
    6 months ago

    Hang on a minute, equivalents of SpaceX and Starlink could have naturally grown out of NASA, it was the obvious place for them to come from but NASA did not show that innovation and nationalisation of them might dilute their abilities. For clarity I am not suggesting the innovation came from Musk, he has no science or engineering, his talents are grifting, showmanship and taking credit for other people’s work, he is a natural figurehead though and seemed quite clear thinking until he lost his mind.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.eeEnglish
      223·
      6 months ago

      NASA has had it’s funding cut year after year for decades. It’s far easier to innovate when you have money to back up the r&d and testing.

      • seven_phone@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        6 months ago

        I wasnt discussing underlying cause, whatever the reason for stifled innovation in some fields possibly evident in NASA it is likely preferable not to pull independent labs into NASA that are having success in these areas.

      • fitgse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        6 months ago

        Not just funding cuts, but it was heavily politicized and had its direction changed every 4 years. You can’t plan long term like that. It needs to be a government agency but not at the whim of the president or congress.

  • TheBannedLemming@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    6 months ago

    I am not saying that I don’t agree with you. But this country is still not even close to considering nationalizing its own telecommunication infrastructure. Much less a privately held space company and a service of communication satellites. A large chunk of America believes that a for-profit business model for every good and service possible in life is the best course of action.

        • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          Who doesn’t hate Musk these days?

          Probably the ones that don’t always speak about him

          He’s pissed of everyone except the ones who want to be ruled by a technobro king.

          No, he pissed off everyone that think that the world is black and white: the US. The rest of the world is indifferent about him