• WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I mean, we all knew that the NRA was on the fascists’ side, but what about all those leftist gun owners that kept spamming the “under no pretext” quote after every school shooting? Surely they’ll be starting their glorious revolution any minute now, right?

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    Uh, the average level of American marksmanship that we’ve seen suggests that tyranny is perfectly safe.

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    Read this as “Cmon do a racist tyranny” at first. Like, damn thats pretty mask off, and hello welcome to the last decade…

    But yeah, “resist” works too.

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    ICE is raiding the places with the strictest gun laws. Plenty of Hispanics here in the South, don’t see them fucking with Georgia.

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        And your point? One of these things is just like the other.

        CA and NYC seem to be top of the news and they clearly have the toughest gun laws. NYC may as well be in another country and CA is pretty ridiculous.

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          ICE is raiding all over the country. Take a look at San Antonio, for example. The Trump Admin is loudest though about blue states, and you seem to be easily swayed by propaganda, so makes sense all you can hear is what Trump talks about

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            First off, go fuck yourself with all that. You will not paint me with your MAGA paintbrush.

            I can’t even argue this shit with someone who clearly isn’t watching the news.

            “Nuh uh! I have a couple of tiny exceptions that prove I’m right!”

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          Are you suggesting they’re afraid of gun owners firing on ICE to protect their undocumented neighbors? Or that the people they’re detaining may defend themselves with force, even though undocumented immigrants can’t purchase or possess firearms in red OR blue states?

          They’re afraid of agitating their voters and losing votes. Guns have nothing to do with it.

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            Ever notice the fascists don’t show when guns are around? This whole site was screaming with joy, and I along with them, when armed people showed out to protect drag queens reading at libraries.

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              Someone firing on their foot soldiers is the best gift anyone could give a fascist would-be dictator.

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        Oh no, they’re all over fucking Texas. At least in the cities. San Antonio just had a BUNCH of people arrested at the Courthouses last week. Its fucking infuriating.

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            Oh, of course. That’s a given. But the original comment implied that the feds are only fucking with blue states and immigrants are fine in places like Georgia.

            I was assuring that commenter that immigrants in Texas are indeed not okay. And where are they supposed to go? Run into the red counties surrounding the cities?

            Fuck. This state has the opportunity to be someone’s first glimpse of America, and it chooses to portray a shitty, hateful, dangerous view of it. Makes me fucking sick. I feel so goddamned stuck. Fortunately though, the cities have been protesting as well. There was an anti-ICE protest in SATX this past weekend, and theres another one scheduled for Saturday.

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              Oh, of course. That’s a given. But the original comment implied that the feds are only fucking with blue states and immigrants are fine in places like Georgia.

              The idea is to target blue areas so they can put on a show of “doing something” about immigration while their base continues to see around the same number of brown people who don’t speak English very well and so continues to believe that the “invasion” is ongoing and stronger action needs to be taken.

              I’ll say this though - since Trump started doing heavy ICE enforcement I’ve noticed a lot fewer truck drivers who need a translation app to handle basic English. Makes me wonder if ICE has got them afraid of having to deal with DOT.

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    It’s almost as if it was all bullshit to get you to donate to a organization specifically designed to enrich its officers and gun manufacturers.

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      That’s wildly underselling it. The financial aspect is almost anecdotal. The 2nd amendment movement has only ever served one purpose above everything else: Arm white people to manage, deter, and even lynch black people, as well as to prepare for the eventual transition to fascism.

      This is part of why the Great American Project was doomed to degenerate into fascism long decades Maga was a thing. Wildly racist violent thugs were given the sociopolitical power to establish this whole charade about “resisting tyranny” when it was only ever about minorities. Always. Even supposed liberals bought into this lie, eternal shame upon these useful idiots. Yet every time since the American Civil War where black people started actually organizing and exercising their 2A right ended with those rights gutted or those communities actually being fucking bombed. That should have been pretty telling. But Americans collectively kept up the repeatedly disproven pretense that this was about “fundamental rights”.

      Anyway if you can’t tell recent events have got me pretty fired up about the innumerable ways in which american self-mythology has only ever served fascist agendas.

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    Democrat-voting socialist here, this argument is fucking stupid because nothing is stopping the Left from also buying guns and doing what this post is implying. Y’all just want an easy target to hate and impotently complain online about, when you could also go buy a gun, organize, and stop tyranny yourself.

    Fuck Trump fuck Republicans, but also fuck Democrats, including you the person reading this, for being associated with gun fearing pussies who want other people to do the hard work for you.

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    NRA obviously isn’t going to help us, but your local Socialist Rifle Association would be more amenable to resisting tyranny. If there is no chapter in your area get some like minded friends together and start one.

    Edit: How could I forget your local John Brown Gun Club, good number of chapters around the country and they will be comrades.

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      SRA is pretty explicit about not being a “militia” of any kind. Good place to meet cool people, but they won’t be resisting under the SRA banner. John Brown Gun Club on the other hand is a little less timid about showing up to protect people.

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        Thanks for mentioning them, my thoughts were apparently not fully engaged yet when I posted, and originally said ‘Socialist Rifle Club’, my brain combined them into one

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      The marines were just deployed domestically (blatantly unconstitutional) and they complied with the unlawful order. They are part of the fascist insurrection.

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        Military coups happen, that’s why Trump replaced all the generals that might stand against him

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        Bet they were salivating at shooting illegals while violating the constitution.

        Should’ve packed them in like sardines with no food or water. They went there with the intent to murder.

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        I mean, you’re right, but it’s because of their demographics and proximity to the situation that I said what I said.

        Few NRA members will be in any position to intervene or see the reality first-hand. Meanwhile, Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.

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          Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.

          I take it Marines are especially likely to have family or spouses that are here illegally, for some reason?

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            1 in five are Hispanic(tbh, I did think it was more), but there was a noteworthy case in the news a while back about a spouse flying into Hawaii and getting deported to Australia. On that note, military members serve overseas a lot, and often marry locals, so the ethnicity stats don’t tell the whole story.

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            Per Congress:

            As of February 2024, more than 40,000 foreign nationals were serving in active and reserve components of the Armed Forces. An estimated additional 115,000 foreign nationals residing in the United States are veterans who have previously served on active duty.

            Service guarantees citizenship. We’ve got so many immigrants in the military. Heavy Hispanic representation. Rodriguez and Vasquez are stereotype names for military members and you’ll find it in movies all the time.

            I do have a general feeling that Marines take more immigrants, especially Hispanic, but I don’t have anything to base it on.

            It’s actually a little more complex than a guarantee, but serving in the US military is a path to expedited citizenship/permanent residency including family.

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              That doesn’t say anything about Marines in particular as opposed to any other branch of active duty military, which is the bit I was replying to.

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                Yeah, it’s the info I was able to dig up however. I was suprised that there are many non citizens in the US military.

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              Hispanics - particularly Hispanic men in the military - have long been loyal supporters of the Republican Party and the Trump Presidency. A lot of these guys are from families that fled countries undergoing left-wing insurgencies and joined the US military with an eye towards flipping their home countries back to conservative governance. In particular, you’ve got a lot of Cuban and Venezuelan ex-pats aligned with the capitalist opposition parties. You’ve also got a lot of Nicaraguans and Columbians with a family history opposed to the Sandinistas and the FARC rebels. And that’s before Marine Training beats anything resembling modern liberalism out of you.

              The Trump anti-immigrant attitude puts them in a weird place, since they’re nominally aligned with his political attitude but physically exposed to his dragnet against anyone with an unseasonable tan. Also, heaven help you if you’re a queer Hispanic with conservative politics.

              But go down the rooster of the Jan 6th gang. Check out who some of Trump’s most loyal supporters are in the House and Senate, particularly in Gulf states like Florida and Texas. You’re going to find a lot of Hispanics. The Marines are a hotbed of reactionary politics and fascist attitudes, second only to the holy roller Christian nationalists in the Air Force.

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                I’ve had a few ex military drinking buddies, all left leaning, oddly enough. Two of them were white bread suburban boys that figured it out, other was a black feller that just defaulted left.

                The fucking chair force sounds miserable with how far they’ve taken it. My buddy talked about goofy swords and rituals, IIRC.