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Yo, I know I’m kinda late with this but please provide alt text when you’re posting here in the future
Also this isn’t exactly a meme either
Apologies. Alt text added!
Thank you for adding good quality alt text! w
Also I didn’t mean to sound harsh in the post above, you could post similar content over on c/Socialism next time
No worries, and will do! :)
We had help with the rest of the world.
Germany didn’t get out of the third Reich by themselves (which is what is going on)
Consider that Germany was in far more dire straits economically, and Hitler’s approval was crazy high even towards the end of the war (something like 60 or 70%). So the entire time the opposition was outnumbered.
In comparison, Trump’s approval is around 45%.
LOL ‘help’
The Soviets killed 85% of the nazi troops.
The rest was all other countries combined.
And they would’ve been on the Atlantic in no time without trouble if the allies hadn’t come in to take a piece of the European loot.
The nazi’s enemy were the communists.
They didn’t fight as much against the west which gave them all the chances to surrender and escape punishment.This sounds like the defeatist attitude they want you to have. Just give up, it’s hopeless. No one is helping you.
No, I don’t think I will. I think I’ll do something. We need more people feeling empowered to take back this country. Not thoughts of hopelessness.
Germany didn’t want to, at least not a majority. Maybe if Germans would have known where it was going (unwinnable war vs all neighbours at once etc), they would have tried early. US Americans have the advantage of this knowledge.
Look where having the advantage of this knowledge got us.
Maybe knowledge is a bit intense for some.
Unfortunately, that knowledge doesn’t just help those who wish to fight against it. Those who seek that kind of authoritarian power also were able to learn what worked and what didn’t.
They then spent decades patiently cultivating the type of society, through extensive social manipulation that has since been exacerbated thanks to expanding technology, to create the perfect environment for them to try again.
This is all by design of those who hold the levers of industry to further facilitate their concentration of wealth.
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Bro leave Pepe out of this ;w;
More left victory memes for the cause ❤️
That’s the spirit - we’ll win if we just post enough memes! C’mon, who’s with me? Let’s get scrollin!
And this time can we forgo the special treatments for “usefuls”?
Like, for example, the commander of unit 731, who is a mass murderer and mass torturer, but since he had some medical data (which turned out to be worthless anyway) he got a new identity and enjoyed a nice free life
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Fuck off, you piece of shit.
Shocking response.
“There isn’t a genocide happening…”
Do you mean besides the one in Gaza, where U.S. money and munitions have been facilitating the bombing and starvation of children for over a year?
My question is rhetorical. If you have a response, I’m not interested in hearing it.
I meant in america, apologies.
Yes, no genocide on homeground (unless you could count the genocide of native americans as still on going), but there’s slavery (and it has a big enough market influence that it lowers wages significantly) and concentration camps.
lemmy is full of people that hate fascists. simple as.
Cool they also think everyone they disagree with is a fascist.
they think that everyone that fits the Definition of fascism, is a fascist
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But we do, in fact, have enough information to call Trump a fascist (and thus anyone who is a suporter of his). The defintion of fascism, as stated by wikipedia is:
- far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement.
- characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition
- belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race
- strong regimentation of society and the economy.
- Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism
Trump has, in the not so distant past:
- Claimed expanded executive authority
- refused to transfer power after losing an election
- has praised authoriterian leaders
- Frequently made appeals to racial and cultural superiority (e.g., calling certain countries “shitholes,” claiming immigrants are “poisoning the blood” of ‘America’)
- Attempted to delegitimize dissent or protest as unpatriotic
- Just a couple of days ago called the national guard (not sure if that’s the correct translation) on anti-deportation protesters
- Has, and is, sending deported people into de-facto concentration camps
- Has suggested using the military for domestic policing
- Has endorsed populist economic nationalism (tariffs, breaking international trade norms, attacking corporations that oppose him)
And much more, but let’s just jump to a conclusion anyways, right? Nazwałbym Pana debilem, ale tak nie wypada, to tego nie zrobę.
Not sure what that last sentence is about but either way I simply disagree with your conclusion.
So say “we” as if we are in charge.
We never beat them.
The west ensured that Nazism survived, filling the ranks of West Germany’s security services with them and then institutionalising fascist terrorist groups all throughout Europe through it’s “Gladio” networks. Japan’s economy was essentially just handed back to the very same pack of colonialists and industrialists that had fuelled Japan’s imperialism in the 20s.
Hell, even the Romanian Communist Party got in on the act - those vicious Iron Guard bastards were just too good at torture and murder to pass up, I guess.
So no… we never beat them.
Maybe it’s too pedantic of me but I think we beat them. We failed to fix the corrupted system that spawned them. The inequity and the propaganda, The oligarchs pitting a us against each other. Marginalizing groups as scapegoats.
We (the US) let those little those freedom checks and balances we were touted in school be destroyed with barely a whimper
LOL, even the Naz!s knew the problem with that! “© that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-Germans involved. The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden.”
Of course, then they then go too far with: “We demand the legal prosecutions of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural even which violate this demand.”
Scratch a fascist and a liberal bleeds - see, that’s how you can tell that we did not, in fact, defeat the fascists - if we did, liberalism would be dead and buried, too.
Instead, we allowed “liberal democracy” to nurse fascism back to health, hone it’s murderousness by using it as a tool of colonialist domination, and pretend to be shocked when these fascists just suddenly show up to protect their precious capitalist status quo back home in the imperial core.
None of that was an accident - when we say fascism is just colonialism coming home to roost we don’t mean it figuratively.
Eloquent, but also bull#$%. What would you do? Execute every last person in Germany and Japan to make sure you rooted out the fascists? None of the fasscists that were alive then are in charge of what’s going on now. The neofacisct groups have nothing to do with WWII other than they decided to celebrate them. This isn’t the problem of an organization allowed to thrive and grow, it’s an ideal that’s being picked up by people and used as a tool.
Oh, it’s “bull#$%,” eh?
No, Clyde, I’ll tell you what is actually bullshit - people like YOU literally WATCHING both liberals and fascists play their respective parts to protect the status quo right in front of your goddamn eyes and STILL pretending that any of this is some great mystery to you.
That’s bullshit.
Hold on, I’m trying to find my tiniest violin while I block you.
You’re up for three more years of your liberal overlords pretending to dislike fascists while they tell you to “vote harder” - you might want to save that violin for yourself.
You are doing a fantastic job of pitting one group against another, so apparently knowing the problem doesnt make you immune to it.
You’re wrong, they did not fail it was intentionally.
US/UK made sure plenty of fascists escaped after surrendering to them.
Kept them in power in all of Europe with a slap on the wrist at most.
How many nazis where trialed at the Nuremberg virtue signaling trials? 24.
NATO literally had fascist regimes in it, Spain, Portugal, Greece.
Even leading NATO/EU and various countries. .All of this has been swept under the carpet.
https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2024/01/12/nato-as-seen-from-one-who-grew-up-under-us-sponsored-neofascism-unherd/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo
But the call is coming from inside the house this time.
The call was always coming from inside the house - fascism is just colonialism coming home to roost, after all.
“Fascism is imperialism turned inwards.”
And then turned outwards again
Bingpot!
Yeah, the two most prominent examples of fascism in history (Germany and Italy) were only beaten by a combined military power much, much greater than them. Even as they were literally being bombed into rubble and their military situation was beyond hopeless, they never overthrew their fascist leaders.
Maybe they’re only the most prominent b/c they weren’t stopped?
Remember the mid-2000’s Ukrainians Orange revolution? I wouldn’t be surprised you don’t b/c those fasciat losers were stopped from within, so we don’t talk about them too often. Which is good, honestly.
They won in 2014
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Yep. And the most prominent fascist power that wasn’t overthrown externally (Francoist Spain) lasted 40 years until it’s demogogue died. The reason it wasn’t a bigger problem for the world at large was that it was a politically isolated minor power.
The world hasn’t yet seen something like an (openly) fascist modern USA.
I came here to write this exact statement I’m glad to see somebody else already did.
Guys you lost.
That’s the spirit 👍
The Soviets beat them. LOL
Shows how much you ‘socialists’ know.
No country alone beat them. The Soviets did more than the others but it wasn’t them alone
85 fucking percent.
You can dislike that all you want, these are facts.The Soviet people also did most of the dying.
And?
Perhaps stop glorifying things you don’t understand. The Soviet people doing most of the fighting and dying is what the West wanted all along.
Giving credit to whom it belongs when some fake leftists claim it was the west and in doing so showing they are wrong is a sign that “I don’t understand”? LOL
is a sign that “I don’t understand”
Yeah. 20 milion dead is not a gotcha, Clyde.
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A socialist party who does dragnet operations on socialists, communists and trade unionists.
Very socialist, that.
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Pepe did nothing wrong
Yeah I thought we had moved past this whole pepe is alt-right thing. He’s a beloved little goof.
The Nazis can take my little pepes out of my cold dead hands
Would we have beat the nazis if they just stayed in Germany?
Nope. The US, UK and France weren’t waging war on fascism in any way whatsoever - they were waging war on rival empires.
That’s the whole reason they never went to war with Francoist Spain - they helped him into power, after all.
In Spain the fascist stayed in Spain, participation on ww2 was very small and Franco betrayed Hitler as soon as he saw he was going to lose, so there was no reason for the USA to invade Spain and we got 40 years of fascist dictatorship.
Nope, they sat by and watched as Germany sunk into fascism and began their ethic cleansing and putting people in cattle cars to take to camps, if Germany had never invaded Poland they would’ve continued to sit by and do fuck all.
After Germany invaded Poland they have continued to sit by and do about fuck all for a year.
The trouble is: the poster misrepresents the situation. The guy wearing the red hat is the one holding the rifle and bayonet this time.
So were the nazis. We just out rifle’d and bayonette’d them.
I’ve been saying for a while that the left in the US needs to embrace the 2nd ammendment.
Dark times are fast approaching… be prepared
Sounds like you better fix that
I’m being downvoted for pointing out an obvious discrepancy, one that needs to be recognized and reckoned with?
In WW2 the full federal might of the United States government and armed forces were aligned against the Axis.
Which side is the administration on now? Against whom were the National Guard and Marines deployed against this week? Reality check time.
Does it make you feel better to lash out and rage against people who agree with you, who are on your side and opposed to the bullshit we’re all facing? Slipping into a comfy fantasy, where we imagine the “good guys” have the guns and power this time, isn’t productive, unless it’s motivating you to arm yourself and build solidarity. Do you have your rifle and bayonet? I do. Are you supporting people who are with you, or are you just sitting in your chair screaming at the wrong people on the Internet?
