I was really into punk music when I was a kid since the late 80s/early 90s, then the big boom happened in the mid-late 90s, which eventually yielded to pop punk and emo music from the early 2000s. I kid you not, I was bullied as a kid for liking punk music, before it became mainstream.
I still listen to it and I’ve even seen a resurgence coming as it coinciding with the 20 year nostalgia cycle, which is great in my opinion. But being a punk fan before it achieved mainstream success and after it went into decline by 2010s made me feel exactly as this post describes.
Punk was big in the late 70s - mid 80s, though? I thought the big boom was early 80s. It was buried under things like nu-metal and emo in the late 90s (I’m fuzzy on this because of reasons).
It was buried under things like nu-metal and emo in the late 90s (I’m fuzzy on this because of reasons).
there was stuff like the offspring and green day , them sum41 as a death throe.
source : was into 2/3
Green day, offspring, and sum41 are all very solidly in the pop/punk genre, debatably leaning more pop…
Yes they are. I count it as pop punk.
Totally punk, you know what isn’t? being an elitist about a music genres, specially punk
Idk if that’s elitism. It’s more calling a spade a spade. Punk at its core is about recapturing the simplicity and energy of early pre-british invasion rock. That doesn’t really lend itself to ballads and concept albums. It’s not about denigrating green day so much as finding a definition that fits them better.
correct, should’ve clarified, I was big into what was at the time, old-school punk. As I was not alive in the late 70s.
I welcomed the punk-rock wave of the 90s with open arms.
Moopet casually crushing a lemming’s self-image
Steampunk aesthetic ( 1990’s ), generative art ( early 2000s )
While not to the same degree as a lot of folks, Fallout got into it some time around New Vegas because it was featured on game fly. Anyways delved headfirst into it and fell in love with the classic games. The post Fallout 4 boom gives me a headache sometimes I just want to talk with old bastards and my fellow autists about Fallout without some profligate butting in cause they watch the TV show.
Russerfrushenrushen kids and their first person fallout games. All my homes know best fallout is third person isometric turn based.
Technically that includes Brotherhood of Steel, careful there that game is still actively worse than anything Bethesda has made.
Eh, I remember enjoying it, though never played it again so 🤷 possibly nostalgia. It was just not an open world or rpg.
Oh wait, I was thinking of fallout tactics. BOS was like wasteland skinned diablo right? That is, not turn based so not in my original grumpy old man comment.
Yeah it was the one with Ballz energy drink instead of nuka cola. I was just poking fun since isometric can sometimes include top down.
I was lucky enough to have played fallout 3 before new Vegas. So the series for me went from “that was fun, interesting setting” to “Wow this is genuinely amazing and feels like a living world that I’m inhabiting and interacting with.”
And then fallout 4 came out, and I was hoping that Bethesda would have learned something from New Vegas. But that was foolish, modern Bethesda doesn’t write stories, they don’t understand characters, they are a software company manufacturing a product, not a studio crafting playable stories. What narrative and story do exist, are the minimal needed to serve the gameplay loops. They make toy boxes, not experiences. Some people like that, but that’s not what I play these kinds of games for.
Going back and playing fallout 1 and 2 solidified this for me further, if Bethesda was going to learn from what made new Vegas great, they would have done so from 1 and 2 and implemented it in 3.
I haven’t even bothered to try fallout 76. I know what it is, it’s a looter shooter live service game meant to Skinner box you in to spending as much time as possible grinding up numbers and finding the best stats on rare drops. It’s not what I’m in to. I’ve accepted that.
As much as I love the fallout setting and the potential for story and world, there will never be another fallout game, just Bethesda products wearing the aesthetic. There are plenty of other great games out there that have story and gameplay working synergistically to create an experience.
Well if you want to scratch that CRPG story itch may I suggest Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, Tainted Grail, Wasteland 2 and 3, and basically all of Owlcat games except maybe Pathfinder kingmaker.
played a lot of those.
I remember VtMB particularly fondly.
Now if only VtMB2 would get out of its development hell so we could know if it’s shit or not.
did people even read the last 3 green lines?
I spent a lot of time on computers (shocker, right?) and that was seen as nerdy and weird when I was at school. Even after I got my first real job, I remember my girlfriend dismissing things I’d say because “nobody cares about your stupid internet”. Predictable rest of comment is predictable.
ffs moopet, why did you let your internet get this bad
Good God, this one hits home for me. “He’s always in his room on his cuhpyooter.” “He’s a hacker, he’s a nerd.” Ummm, no. I’m just pretending to be a girl and swapping tit pics with other dudes who are pretending to be girls and playing video games. Y’all living in the stone age with your magazines and your Nintendo. I’m in my room with every Nintendo game ever made and a new pair of tits to look at anytime I want.
Now half of those people are fumbling around and giving scammers 200 dollars, constantly glued to their little 30 dollar smart phones and “playing on Facebook”. And of course, they be calling me to ask how to find an app they got from the play store. “It used to just go on the screen I swear.”
It’s equally as bad when you discover you like something that has been around for a while and has lots of fans and you don’t get accepted or realise you don’t want to be part of the fans because of how shitty, toxic, dumb etc. they are. A relevant example for this is Assassin’s creed for me. I never like any of the games until AC: Origins, even though I gave most of them a fair shake. AC: Origins is a 10/10 for me, I put in over 600h hours into that game, 100%'ed it and all its expansions/dlc. AC: Odyssey is good too, but I never got as into it, so a 8/10. Valhalla never looked good in any way so never even tried it. Started playing Shadows about a week ago and really enjoying it so far, not as good as Origins but mostly better than Odyssey. But damn do people not like when I mention this, like I’m not allowed to like it because I didn’t like the earlier games. I have no issue with people liking them and not the ones I do, never said anything else. Music is a lot like this too. “Oh, you like their newer stuff? Fucking idiot, only the early stuff is good, I now see down on you as a person and hate every opinion you have”.
When games have a perceived quality shift people will attack the newer fans because they see them as the reason why the company is allowed to “get away” with producing the worse thing. I don’t know how you can avoid that and still have a community that holds the thing they love to a standard. Some communities just like to fight about which games better, Im not really sure what else there is to even talk about with assassins creed (i’ve only played 2 of the games so idk).
There’s way too much gatekeeping in gaming. People don’t seem to understand that everyone has different tastes, and it’s all subjective. There is no objectively good game. For me it’s Half Life 2, I don’t like shooters, tried it but couldn’t get into it. But to many it’s one of the greatest games ever.
There are objectively good games. There are not objectively fun games.
Half-Life 2 is objectively good, and if you say it’s a bad game you’re simply wrong. However if you say it’s a game you do not enjoy and isn’t fun for you, that’s not wrong.
A game can be both good and not enjoyable to you.
Conversely, a game can also be objectively bad and yet fun for some people.
If you mean good = game works as intended and bad = buggy mess, then it can be objective sure. But gameplay, design, story, structure are all subjective. In those ways HL2 is a bad game to me, that doesn’t mean it is for everyone, and no one should be offended by that.
The Epic of Gilgamesh
I remember that damn ad on TV back in in 2009. It was for SakuraCon, a annual Anime convention in Seattle.
I went there once with a group of friends. Made anime look uncool very fast.
Blud thinks it’s c. 2100–1200 BCE
I see more people aware of it today, but was there a burst in pop culture with idiots that then died down? The people who talk about it today seem pretty genuine and get good reception.
Yeah, it got really popular when the Bible dropped in the 2nd century BCE. The Noah flood story was basically a copy-and-paste of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Bible nerds were annoying af.
Minecraft. Started playing in 2011 and have played off and on every year since then. It’s now really popular again, but I distinctly remember around 2017-18 it became suddenly uncool to play. When I would be in a VC with friends while playing it, they would ride my ass for it. The ~10 year nostalgia/hype cycle is coming full circle lol
I got my copy back in May 2011. I think the only thing that pisses me off that’s related to its popularity was it being sold and sold again, and so when I wanted to start playing with my children, I had to re-buy the game. I transferred from minecraft to Mojang, but didn’t do Mojang to Microsoft, and so that was that.
Beyond that, I’m 37 and have two kids and I don’t really know if it’s popular and what the community is like, I just play with my kids, and they’re scared of endermen, so it’s fun.
God yes. I was one of the first people to buy it. Back when you had to send Notch himself five bucks to play it. I was interested in the concept, but frankly didn’t think it would have much appeal beyond people who enjoy completely self-guided experiences with no set goals.
How wrong I was.
It’s been wild seeing it rise to the top of the pop culture heap, become popular with 12 year olds and eventually result in me seeing a movie starring Jack Black based on it.
It’s wild that it started with me and a handful of guys sending Notch a fiver.
Since 2011 for me too. I sometimes step away for half a year at a time, but I always end up back.
As much as the modern image of Minecraft might be obnoxiously shouty youtube shorts, that’s not all there is to it.
You have the groups of talented builders recreating the Lord of the Rings world of Middle Earth at 1:1 scale, and then the crazy redstoners building fully working computers inside the game.
Minecraft has always been for everyone, and I hope it always will be.
started in 2012, played with friends on a shitty server i ran on an old Dell with Ubuntu on it, years of goofy fun
every few months i reinstall, load it up, and go “what the FUCK is THAT!?” to a “new” mob/biome/etc. lol
frogs still jumpscare me
still keep trying to place torches 13 blocks apart before remembering spawning is light level >1 now lmao
I’m in the same boat with a few others here when it comes to some games like Halo and Fallout. But I feel like I’m on the brink with 2 new ones:
- Doom: I played the original when I was a kid and got bullied for it (or probably being a general nerd). 2016 and Eternal were really popular and the franchise took off; but Dark Ages feels off. I played Dark Ages for a bit, put it down, and haven’t picked it up since. I think Doom is going down the shitter, especially what they did to Mick Gordon.
- Mother Mother (a band): My SO and I love their music for how unique and interesting it is; and we went to one of their first concerts at a small venue when they came into town ~10 years ago ish? Must have been <500 people. Generally no one else liked their music we shared it with, so we kept it to ourselves. Now? We went to another one a few months ago and it was at a HUGE stadium; absolutely packed. I think one of their songs went viral on TikTok - My Daddy’s got a gun. We’re proud of what they’ve accomplished, but really hope they don’t lose their identity in trying to become even more popular.
TIL Mother Mother is popular now. Loved O My Heart back in the day
This was from the concert. Pretty packed
Maybe not as big as Anon is talking about, but Bob Vylan.
You mean canceled him before it was mainstream. (In light of recent events)
No. Listened to them (the band) which I still am. Even more now actually. Due to the recent events.
Last month my friend asked what I wanted for my birthday and I said I wanted their The Internet is Dead hoodie. I don’t think I’m getting that hoodie.
Oh, why not?
All of their merch sold out incredibly quickly as a show of support after they got dropped by their talent agency. Looking at their Shopify now they have absolutely no listing for any clothes so I doubt that collection is coming back.
Ah. I didn’t know. Good to hear that people are supporting, sucks that you can get one though. I was gonna get a shirt and a couple vinyls a while back, but the shipping was more than I wanted to pay sadly.
Edit: can’t, not can in the second sentence.
I just heard this name for the first time yesterday. I have no idea what it is, but I was really upset that I didn’t think of that name.
It is a good name. They’re (the band, a 2 piece) a punk/rap band from the UK. Very into the social injustices and whatnot. They’re in the news because the singer is apparently “anti-Semitic” for chanting “Death, death, to the IDF” at Glastonbury. Not sure if it’s obvious, but I do not agree with that. Shining light on genocide does not make someone anti-Semitic.
I’ve listened to them for a couple years now, but am even more now to promote them. (Although listening to them more probably doesn’t really do anything)
I am an avid collector and drinker of Chinese teas, particularly oolongs and puerh. I had been drinking them for years when suddenly the absolute asshole Dr. Oz went on TV claiming that puerh tea was some magical cure for anything and everything that you might have.
Normally, I get excited for new people to share tea with, but this fad caused prices to rise across the board and caused the market to get flooded with awful quality tea. These people were drinking some of the worst quality (fishy, shou/cooked puerh) teas and were more obsessed with how to mask the flavors with milk and sugar than actually slowing down and enjoying the tea.
The fad faded and people went back to putting matcha in their morning milkshakes. Even so, I still run into people that reflexively associate incredible tea with Dr. Oz and the disgusting teas he foisted upon his audience. Sad.
Sounds like Rick and morty
anime
it’s become waay too popular and drowned in a sea of mediocrity
eh it hasn’t declined in popularity to the point people think you’re talking about some ancient thing when you mention it
Now they don’t even bother with localization anymore… which would be a good thing except now we have screens full of untranslated onscreeb Kanji that the story demands you be able to read and overly long and literal titles like “The Time I Gained The Power To Turn My Sister’s Panties Into Angelic Guns By Meeting God On The Planet Golbacky While Drinking My Juice In The Hood That Tuesday Night.” Which aren’t even what people in Japan call the show since even in the tongue of Nippon that’d take too dang long.
Hell you’re lucky if there’s even a dub at all. Let alone one that hasn’t been beaten to the ground by politics
As I’ve become more casual I just stick to dubbed anime titles. It’s more likely to be something decent and avoids some of the more egregious problematic tropes of the genre.
meh, i don’t mind watching undubbed anime; anything that’s “internationalized” is probably watered down anyways … i wanna see raw, undiluted japanese weirdness
Yeah but I usually am multi-tasking and can’t pay full attention. So it being in English is helpful
I got into anime when you had to go to shitty distributor conventions, in shitty city limits hotels, and walk through a big room filled with smoke, rifling through boxes of tapes, while greasy guys in cheap suits tried to talk you into buying shit. The other option were shoddily scanned, black and white, prints of distro catalogues you could order from. They would always be companies you never heard of, from buildings in weird places, and you could never know if you were actually going to get something, or just lose that money. The Sci Fi channel would have saturday morning anime, which would play, uncensored, stuff, but generally only the biggest hits. So it would cycle through Akira, Vampire Hunter D, Bubble Gum Crises, and about a dozen others.
It started to get a better at the end of the 90s, when you had a couple larger distros that came on to the scene, and you could reliably get what you paid for. They would also always have previews of other anime they were selling before the movie started, and it was likely set to some KMFDM track. Then in the 2000s is when it sorts hit a sweet spot, it was easy to get, there were multiple options on TV, and it hadn’t quite yet become totally mainstream. Haven’t really bothered with it much since then. Sometimes I will get recommendations from people I know I can trust to not be suggest the millionth iteration of watered down Fist of the North Star, fan service vehicles, or things that are just collages of bad anime tropes turned into a show.
That’s like saying too many people listen to music and it’s flooded with mediocrity, there’s a lot of really unrelated genres and time periods, and trends that come and go continually, like everything there’s a big amount of meh tier work.
I’ll be honest here; anime has always been a large sea of mediocrity, with the few sprinklings of stuff that is occasionally actually good, and some incredibly rare few things that are consistently good.
Right? Like the reason it was so popular in the early 2000s is because we got all the good stuff at once.
I think it’s a right place / right time sort of thing. I have never gone back and rewatched an old favorite without regretting it. Things that meant a lot to me at the time just hit different from a different head space, and revisiting that old space just makes the flaws more noticeable.
yeah actually that closely matches my observations
The internet
immediately where my mind went.
From “haha, raspberriesareyummy will marry his computer one day” to most everyone around me constantly staring at their whatsapp, tiktok or “talking” with siri/alexa.
Fuck this shit :(
Oh god I heard that constantly as a kid. Gah. Now they’re all married to Facebook and don’t know how to use it. Oh well.
I’ve been online since 1995. I weep for what we lost. The web should have stayed a nerd domain. We’d have been better off as a society.
Absolutely. The biggest individual loss for me was the usenet. That was the first time google showed its true, evil and ugly face - by introducing tons of people who had no idea what the usenet was via google groups.
The second blow was when people no longer required any technical knowledge whatsoever to “go online”, because ISPs sold internet access complete with a router that took care of the connection.
The third blow was when every idiot and their mom who have no idea how to operate a computer or a keyboard got access to the internet via mobile devices with touchscreens and an app for everything.
Eventually, the absolute enshittification of centralized social media (ongoing).
And now - AI slop.
Exactly. Back in 1995, my dad could never get online. Heck, he couldn’t even remotely figure out a PC. We tried to teach him some basics like ‘click with the left mouse button to open something’, but he was downright scared of the thing. He never, ever touched it.
But ‘thanks’ to the iPad, he’s e-mailing, on Facebook, on YouTube, TikTok etc. Which also has the unfortunate effect of subjecting him to boomer brainrot. He’s now more actively misinformed than he used to be because of that fucking iPad.
We’ve made the web accessible to people who shouldn’t be on it. Because it’s hurting them and hurting society as a whole.
We’ve made the web accessible to people who shouldn’t be on it. Because it’s hurting them and hurting society as a whole.
Did we do that though? Or was it some hardware / software developers with no backbone to stand up to greedy corporations who wanted to make it accessible? Other than that - yes, sadly I agree.
I’m so sorry that they called you that
But raspberries are yummy
My ex wife and I used to take a chess board everywhere, play in cafes, parks, restaurants, pubs. It was something to do when we had run out of stuff to say to each other. It was a conversation starter, people would come up and have a sticky, or ask us who’s winning. Some people would occasionally ask if they can play. It was nice. Until Queens Gambit was all the rage. Then people seemed to assume we were just following that trend, and there was a noticeable increase in people saying “Queens Gambit eh?” And we stopped taking the board out so much.
