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Living in walkable area - luxury Having a good commute - luxury
As if the entire system is designed around somebody else’s needs
I don’t think people who made this law ever lived in Toronto. I used to do a 90 minute commute each way, 2 hours easy during afternoon rush.
My company closed its Scarborough location, they opened a new plant in Hamilton. I was going to commute to the new plant. Everyone, including upper management told me how stupid that was. We have to run our logistics during the night because the truck drivers refused to drive in traffic during the day. Truck drivers… How bad is the traffic if truck drivers are refusing
Then his law has failed.
There are plenty of successful housing areas much farther out than 30 minutes one way (the 1 hour is daily). Nearly everyone I know has a longer commute than that.
Maybe it’s the commuters that failed to find a job that’s close enough to be tolerable. I worked one job for a few months where I had a 1-hour each way commute, and it sucked so I job hunted enough to find one with a more tolerable 30-minute commute.
I would rather live in a cardboard box in an alley than commute for more than 15 minutes
Where I live it is that people want bigger houses for their families, so they take a long commute instead of a small house with no yard. A guy at my company literally flies a small plane to work everyday. Another has a 100mi commute each way, so he comes in at like 5am to avoid most of the traffic.
I personally hit a wall at 41 minutes of in-car travel time for a daily commute. I’ve timed it. Every second after that feels like a whole level of abnormal waiting, a kind of cold torture or injustice that you must wade through to to your destination. It’s not a healthy headspace at all. I’ve naturally sought out shorter commutes after this revelation, and yeah, the 30 minute estimate seems right.
I used to have about an hour long commute, and I kinda enjoyed it. I had shit to do at work, and shit to do at home, so being in the car for a while really let me calm down and center myself most of the time.
I get it, but I just can’t get to that place mentally in stop-and-go-bumper-to-bumper traffic for that long. Not even half that long. If that was a nice 50mph cruise the whole time, sure.
About 73 for me most of the way. An hour of bumper to bumper, or commuting on a bus would probably make it worse.
Traffic jams make driving infinitely worse. It requires so much more attention.
My limit is 30 min, anything more than that is a fucking road trip, not a commute.
same. and even that is better paid well, because that increases my work time from 40 to 45 hours per week.
100% Fake, this is not My or half or My city (Santiago CL) reality, 1h is not that long.
Pretty sure the unstated requirement is Given a choice, …
I switched jobs in part because 35 minutes each way was too long. New job is 12 minute drive and I am eying jobs that are a 5 minute walk.
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I wonder how this looks for people with flexible commuting methods. I can bike to work (45 mins each way) or take the train with some walking (40 mins), or take the metro to the train with very little walking (50 mins). The fact that it’s sometimes exercise helps break it up, and I don’t much mind it
Imagine having a choice for how you get to your destination
(this comment made by the American gang)
Yup, it was a big factor in where we wanted to go outside of the US. I can’t imagine going back to car life again
Would you like to commute in a car, or in a pickup truck?
To me, two hours of my life I’m not getting back looks like two hours of my life I’m not getting back. Happy to do that for the exercise or something some of the time, but regularly it’s a very high cost.
Yeah, when I lived in the US I had ~15 mins to work at ~30 home and I loathed it. I bike probably 85-90% of the time so I really just see it as my cardio time and appreciate it
Luckily I now do 2 days in the office but I have a drive commute of around 90 mins each way and maybe 75 mins in school holidays. For around 9 months without a cat I was taking the tram and train with a walk either end which took around 120-150 mins each way
I could not tolerate that full time but I’ve no doubt many people do.
I do wonder if the limit varies between personally operated transport (walking, bike, car) and public transport (bus, tram, train).
A 1 hour bus journey is much more relaxing than a 1 hour drive.
Not always. During rush hour, most buses will operate at their maximum passenger capacity, if you’re one of the many that’s not seated, it’s anything but relaxing or comfortable.
With good enough infrastructure and with good enough working culture, it stops being a problem. More transport options, more units in rush hours, better logistics, morr flexible hours, that sort of things
take the train Jane (refresh your brain)
Just get on the bus, gus
I have diabetic retinopathy and about 10 years ago, I saw enough blind spots that I stopped driving. My company accommodated me by letting me work from home. We already had another employee who was doing that for vision issues, it was simple to do.
Because we were successful, they replaced our desktops with laptops at refresh time and started letting everyone work from home 1 day a week. Then when Covid hit, they just told everyone to bring their laptops home and WFH full time. The CEO talked about return-to-office for a year or two but decided to make it optional.
It’s an amazing benefit. It gave me back about 90 minutes every day, and my dog doesn’t have to be crated during the day. I can sleep later and have access to my own kitchen for lunch. Theres a reason that average tenure in my department is around 20 years.
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When I interviewed at a company some years ago, the commute would have been ~an hour on a normal day (potentially longer if I did park-n-ride). I was very forward about wanting to only come into the office once or maybe twice a week. The manager I was talking with brushed off my commute time by basically saying that the commute wasn’t that long and he knew others that commuted much longer. That was a huge red flag for me and I did not proceed with them. I don’t care what others will tolerate. If management is going to ignore concerns like that, I don’t want to work there. It was really apparent that he wouldn’t let me work from home more than maybe once a week if I was lucky.
And productivty drops for most people after 6 hours of working.
