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𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛@slrpnk.net to Flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 7 months ago

It's super effective!

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It's super effective!

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𝗧𝗼𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 *𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑢𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛@slrpnk.net to Flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 7 months ago
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    No. Moving away is only ok if you really put some distance between the two, otherwise you’re still within reach – it’s a baton, not a fist or knife.

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        By all means do try your “elementary physics” in real life, I beg you. Film it too if possible.
        Not american btw, nor easily offended if that was the point.

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            That isn’t how attacking with batons work. They come from the side because it’s rotational, not linear. If they’re stabbing at you, sure. But they aren’t.

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                How the fuck do you think a baton is supposed to be used?

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                    They aren’t punching

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        No, you’re flat out wrong, the bat is moving in a rotational motion and increasing in speed as it rotates because the wielder won’t be putting any stopping force until they are past the point they intend to strike. This rotational motion, where the farthest point from the fulcrum (shoulder) has the most force. Meaning if you are in range, the farther out you are, the harder you get hit. You must be able to get out of range in order for backing away to be effective, otherwise you get hit harder.

        You’re only correct if it’s thrown, and if you’re this close, it won’t make a difference.

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          I love the word fulcrum. I dont know what it means but it’s beautiful :3

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            It’s the bit in the center that holds up the teeter totter. The axis of rotation in a lever.

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            They’re saying the hit is coming from the side. I’m not an expert, can’t zpeak to the truth of it, but you’re being obtuse.

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                So you dont run away from the source you run away from the hit, which us sideways in a circle?

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            No, try reading the other 90% of my comment.

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                In the one picture we have of the officer before contact is made, you’re saying they’re punching with the baton when it’s above their shoulder and to the side.

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                    Do share the link.

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            Think about it as just a really long pole on a rotating shaft. The further you are away from the center of rotation the faster the pole is moving at that point. That’s why really long swords are more powerful (though harder to wield) than shorter ones, even if they’re the same mass. If you get hit by the tip of the sword it transfers a lot more energy than near the hilt.

            Another way to think about it is it hurts a lot more to get hit by the fist when someone punches than if you get really close and are only hit by their shoulder.

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        In this specific case it’s better to move in. Even better if the fist ends past your back.

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