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I wouldn’t say Bol.com is a good alternative to Amazon as their terms towards sellers is quite toxic, but I also wouldn’t know any other alternative either.
Bol.com has been infested with drop shippers using ai, try searching for “aanpassing titel” lol. Besides, because of their “free shipping”, most products are actually more expensive because they have the shipping price included, and you can buy it for less directly from the seller’s own website.
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telegram isn’t american though? it’s lead by a gifted high iq autist who lives in france?
True, but it almost certainly has backdoors for the non-private chats, so same reason to avoid it as US tech.
for me they can read my chats for unlimited storage space, movies, mp3s
too useful
Thanks, you just gave me a better description of a honeypot frontend than what I could ever conjure up myself.
Great list. My only recommendation is adding LibreOffice.
yeah i already use that too, i didnt rlly register it as an alternative which is why it isnt here ig😅
What’s the benefit in using the Aurora App Store? It just looks like an alternate interface, according to their site you’re still using Google Play and you still need to log in with your Google account. Same with Vivaldi, isn’t it just Chrome? I’m asking sincerely, these aren’t attempts at gotchas or anything.
Isn’t there a no account mode for Aurora ?
Not according to their site
Possibly an old sub-domain of some sort. Here seems more correct.
Fair enough, thanks. The screenshot I took was the top of the page of the first result when I searched for Aurora Store, that’s why I was asking. It just didn’t seem very useful. I might try it out.
Huh, weird that it says that. They let me use an anonymous profile when I installed aurora store. I didn’t have to sign in or anything and when I tap the settings icon it says my account is “anonymous@gmail.com”
I think you only need a google play account if you want to download paid applications or applications that use google pay for microtransactions or whatever.
…you still need to log in with your Google account.
You don’t.
To use Aurora Store, you can either login via your Google account or use an anonymous account.
Tell me about Bol please. I never heard of that. Good experience?
Bol (formerly bol.com) is a website where stores sell stuff similar to amazon, only downsides are the increased amount of dropshippers and they only deliver to the netherlands and belgium
they only deliver to the netherlands and belgium
Pretty large downside for 95% of Europeans
Great suggestions! Also ios/android -> e/os (by murena)
Is that fully functional, and works with mainstream apps?
I am using in on my FP3+ for about 4 years. The only app that didn’t work for me was myswimpro and I suppose it is because I am blocking ads/trackers at network level. Biometrical login to my bank app doesn’t work (the app doesn’t allow it, rather).
No other problems so far.
I only had it on my new Fairphone 6 for about a month. I’m a longtime iPhone user and find it suiting my needs perfectly.
Ecosia is debatable. Also, why the fuck would you introduce Arch Linux as an alternative for Windows?? Start them with Mint/Fedora/Ubuntu.
Linux is Linux. Archinstall+KDE is quite easy to install and get working. Sure, neon or some flavour of debian will be easier. But, it’s practically all the same these days. Also, Arch may have better compatibility with some laptops because of the latest Linux kernel. Moreover, if the person is a little tech savvy, the arch wiki is an excellent place to learn about Linux.
Also the arch logo is sexy AF
Not bad, but keep in mind thay Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot.
They’re using Signal though, not Telegram.
Looks like he updated the list, good stuff anyway.
Which is American…
opensource and privacy focused :3
Signal is opensource in the same way TiVo was GPL compliant.
Hey thanks for the comment. Might you explain a little bit more? I’m just curious to learn more
The Signal app is open source but forking it and connecting it to Signal servers (signal it’s centralised) is againt their TOS
Do you know the term TiVoization? Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization
Signal is opensource, but you can’t use your fork in the official server. You can use it on your forked server, but then you can’t communicate with anyone that’s not on your server. So being opensource is just a marketing tool. There’s also no way of knowing if the binaries distributed were produced with the source code they published. There’s no advantage whatsoever to be opensource for the user. So “opensource” in this case is just a marketing term, like the in case of TiVo.
couldn’t just say Linux lol had to include what distro btw
It’s his list. He didn’t tell anybody to use what he use
yeah, the meme isn’t “you should use arch btw” it’s “i use arch btw” which is exactly what this list says.
i use arch btw
I don’t work in IT or anything, but if I had to guess, they are just following what privacy guides say. Here’s an excerpt:
Arch Linux is a lightweight, do-it-yourself (DIY) distribution, meaning that you only get what you install. For more information see their FAQ.
But they recommend Fedora before that.
P.S: I don’t condone it, just trying to shed some light as to why.
i don’t understand. the except doesn’t seem to say hey mention this distro at every opportunity
Sorry, I could have expressed myself more clearly. All I meant to say is, based on this website, you don’t see them recommending ANY type of Linux distro, but they recommend Fedora at the top of the page and Arch.
It’s not that they are against other Linux distros, but then they share their reasons for recommending those 2 specifically
Some Linux ditros are from the US, could be a no-go for some. The Linux HQ is also located in the US btw.
i’ve never heard of here wego, but i cannot find it on fdroid, is it open-source? is it openstreat map based?
here wego isnt opensource, but it is european (from the netherlands)
Bitwarden is from the US. KeePass would be an alternative. But ProtonPass ist great. Nice List.
How is Bolt any better than Lime or Uber?
I’ve never heard of here we go. I’m a bit hesitant to go driving somewhere using navigation software that isn’t extremely battle tested.
I’d recommend Osmand, that’s what I use and it’s alright for me. It’s never sent me somewhere wrong until know. Not everything is on there but then I just add the place, if I can.
Bolt seems European I guess? Maybe a better plan would be to use the local uber alternative, like https://drivers.coop/ for NYC or https://eva.coop/ for Montréal. Three’s also https://coopcycle.org/ bût that’s for deliveries and takeaways.
OsmAnd is great because of how customisable it is imo, however it’s very slow at plotting routes (especially while cycling, that’s essentially the only use case I have for it) and rerouting doesn’t seem to be a thing?
I would recommend CoMaps for a much faster, but simpler, user experience.Curious – are you using osmand in a car?
Yeah maybe Bolt is European. It’s also in America as a scooter company so I’d assumed they’re American
Yes I navigate with it quite often. I also use it on foot
Nope to proton, it’s weird how they always show up in these kinds of posts.
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Why? What’s wrong with Proton
Nothing, but my opinion is the pricing is too high for their mostly incomplete apps. Other services usually offer more for less when you get them individually.
People say nope to proton and signal in here without offering a better alternative. I’m open to shitting on them (proton CEO really pissed me off by praising the trump admin), but just saying nope to them without functional alternatives isn’t helpful.
How and why is Signal not “American big tech”? It even runs on Amazon’ servers!
It’s not big and it’s not for-profit.
Well does paying a CEO 1.000.000$ count as “big”, or “not for-profit”?
Do they do that?
I read “American/Big Tech” as things that can be either the one or the other but not necessarily both. Telegram is a for-profit, publicly traded company based in Dubai that recently announced a partnership with xAI to include Grok into its services. Signal on the other hand is based in California and has been entirely non-profit so far. Pick your poison, I guess, but I know what I’m gonna pick.
You make it sound like there are only these two possibilities, that’s where it gets misleading…
I mean, I can personally also recommend Threema, but good luck getting people to use it.
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