It’s funny when armchair experts insist that the fediverse won’t catch on because “federation is too hard to understand” when arguably the most widespread communication system on the internet follows the same model

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
    56·
    11 hours ago

    i feel like the newsgroups could also be pegged as an early distributed/mass-audience environment similar to what we see today… multiple nodes sharing sometimes identical loads of content

    i miss tagline management… bluewave

    e. ALso! the star trek nonsense was strong with alt.wesly.crusher.die.die.die!

    • palordrolap@fedia.io
      7·
      9 hours ago

      Yeah, Usenet was where it was at back at the turn of the millennium. Then again, I had access through a university. Access wasn’t free outside of places like that.

      ISPs were spotty on coverage because even at that time, they needed at least a terabyte of storage to dedicate to it, and still not be able to cover everything that was on there. Of course, they might’ve got away with less if they decided not to carry the binaries newsgroups…

      The way it worked was a lot like how Fediverse federation works now, or similarly, filesharing. It was possible to be reading a thread of messages and the older ones wouldn’t be available on your local/ISP news server because their space had been recycled for newer data.

      If you were lucky, your attempt to access that message might cause your host to grab it on a future request to upstream hosts or peers, but some Usenet messages are completely lost to time because everyone purged them.

      Google buying Dejanews, the largest archive of all messages, and merging it with the travesty that was (and still is) Google Groups just about killed the whole thing.

      • Supervisor194@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        9 hours ago

        Google buying Dejanews, the largest archive of all messages, and merging it with the travesty that was (and still is) Google Groups just about killed the whole thing.

        Well that and the fact that it was unmoderated which eventually led to it being populated almost exclusively with mentally ill troll savants. USENET by the end was the digital equivalent of a horror zoo of abused monkeys slinging shit all over everyone and themselves.

        • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.businessEnglish
          6·
          8 hours ago

          unmoderated

          Fun fact: that’s not strictly true.

          You could have moderated groups, where a moderator/group of moderators would get sent every post via email, and they’d only be posted into the group if approved.

          The vast, vast, vast majority of groups were not moderated, but that’s not to say you couldn’t do so.

          • Supervisor194@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 hours ago

            Yes pardon me I left off the word “largely” before “unmoderated.” We all knew it was possible, but it didn’t matter because, as you point out - nobody really did.