It’s for anarchists, but again, more Marxists browse Lemmy.ml than anarchists do, so when you post an anti-Marxist post, even if it’s on an anarchist community, you’re going to get more attention from Marxists. Communities on instances are more like hashtags than actual communities, in my experience. Also, no idea why you’re bringing up Deng, this post attacks Marxism in general.
it’s not for anarchists. source: i’m an anarchist. there are no anarchists here. and again, it’s not anti-marxist just because it mentions not letting “authoritarians” tell you to grow up a couple of times and mentions that Marxists are “opponents” to anarchists. that’s you projecting. I’m bringing up Dengists because I know Dengists when I see them.
It’s tragically ironic that anarchists are so often scolded by condescending authoritarians for being “infantile,” especially when we consider the historical context: no authoritarian regime has ever fostered the conditions necessary for genuine liberation. Are we really expected to believe that future authoritarian systems, following the same tired script, will succeed when every single one has historically exhibited a pattern of dismal failure and a litany of atrocities? Such a belief seems far more naive than the idealistic principles championed by anarchists.
The centralization of power in a single authority not only undermines individual autonomy but also infantilizes the very individuals it purports to protect. By relegating people to a subordinate status as dependents of the state, these systems strip them of agency and responsibility, suggesting that ordinary workers are incapable of making their own decisions. This dynamic adds another layer of irony to the common critique of anarchism, as it is the authoritarian structures that foster dependency, fear of change, and social and political immaturity. In stark contrast, the anarchist vision promotes a world grounded in self-sufficiency through mutual aid, freedom of association, and voluntary cooperation.
This section is pretty nakedly anti-Marxist, and again, I don’t see why Deng is relevant here when this is against all branches of Marxism.
Again, you’re projecting. That you see the word “authoritarian regime” and immediately feel victimized says a lot more about you than me. It’s talking about all authoritarian regimes from Nazi Germany to Fascist USA to Terf Island and beyond. Anarchists saying authoritarian states haven’t liberated people historically is not a personal attack on you.
It’s pretty clearly hinting at those who would use the state to uplift the working class, making way for the gradual withering of the state alongside class, ie Marxists. It also directly talks about centralization, ie collectivizing production in the hands of all of society, a distinctly Marxist viewpoint.
The bit about centralizing all power in a single authority is pretty much the standard punch against Marxists. Having a central government is different from centralizing all of production. Secondly, there’s this part:
The centralization of power in a single authority not only undermines individual autonomy but also infantilizes the very individuals it purports to protect. By relegating people to a subordinate status as dependents of the state, these systems strip them of agency and responsibility, suggesting that ordinary workers are incapable of making their own decisions
What is this supposed to be attacking other than the notion that a proletarian state can be used to uplift the proletariat?
It’s for anarchists, but again, more Marxists browse Lemmy.ml than anarchists do, so when you post an anti-Marxist post, even if it’s on an anarchist community, you’re going to get more attention from Marxists. Communities on instances are more like hashtags than actual communities, in my experience. Also, no idea why you’re bringing up Deng, this post attacks Marxism in general.
it’s not for anarchists. source: i’m an anarchist. there are no anarchists here. and again, it’s not anti-marxist just because it mentions not letting “authoritarians” tell you to grow up a couple of times and mentions that Marxists are “opponents” to anarchists. that’s you projecting. I’m bringing up Dengists because I know Dengists when I see them.
This section is pretty nakedly anti-Marxist, and again, I don’t see why Deng is relevant here when this is against all branches of Marxism.
Again, you’re projecting. That you see the word “authoritarian regime” and immediately feel victimized says a lot more about you than me. It’s talking about all authoritarian regimes from Nazi Germany to Fascist USA to Terf Island and beyond. Anarchists saying authoritarian states haven’t liberated people historically is not a personal attack on you.
It’s pretty clearly hinting at those who would use the state to uplift the working class, making way for the gradual withering of the state alongside class, ie Marxists. It also directly talks about centralization, ie collectivizing production in the hands of all of society, a distinctly Marxist viewpoint.
Central governments aren’t the exclusive domain of Marxists. There’s zero mention of using the state to uplift anyone. Holy moley the projection.
The bit about centralizing all power in a single authority is pretty much the standard punch against Marxists. Having a central government is different from centralizing all of production. Secondly, there’s this part:
What is this supposed to be attacking other than the notion that a proletarian state can be used to uplift the proletariat?
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Why are you trying to dance around?
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