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    “Only the thing we are searching for will be searched for”

    How do you know if a message has that content without scanning all messages to begin with?

    The fuck? Do they think we are stupid?

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      Do they think we are stupid?

      They definitely do. And they are partly right, for the average person this is enough to stop worrying

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      They do the Kremlin defence, just shit out words without meaning, wrong meaning, correct meaning, more words, and everyone can find their “right” answer.

      Here the gullible/tech illiterate can get their “right” answer.

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    And this fight will have to be won every single time, while they have to win just once and we’ll never get it back ?
    It’s obviously a rigged game and such a game can only be won by cheating. Cheating so hard no one ever dares to play this game again.

    So, maybe it’s time to draw post-Europe borders now that european governance has become malignant, I don’t believe it can be saved. This always ends up happenning so might as well hit that reset button early while they’re not seeing it coming this early.

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    They should just mandate that the child pornographers set the evil bit. It would save the EU leaders the trouble of learning how cryptography works.

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    If this were just hash checks running on the local device before it’s encrypted and sent I could accept it. Using AI is a step too far.

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      No, even this should not be applied or sent anywhere. It’s my phone I decide what it does, no one else. I paid for it with my money

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    They always use sex crimes and “the worst of the worst” as an excuse. Always. Then they come after political dissidents and the vulnerable.

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    Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected.

    Uh-huh. And how do you search for something specific without decrypting everything first? This is fucking embarrassing.

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    Yeah we all know that’s BS. “Child porn only” will become “anything illegal” which will become “whatever we want” and SL"with a warrant" will become “all the time”

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    … And how will you be able to distinguish between encrypted child pornography and encrypted normal messages?

    It’s kind of the crux of the matter, so please answer this question

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      Here is a less radical version

      Privacy is not negotiable. It is not a privilege granted by the state, but a fundamental condition of human freedom. Any attempt to undermine encryption, to insert backdoors, or to surveil private communications is not about protecting children, it is about total control.

      The invocation of child protection is not neutral. It is a deliberate emotional manipulation, weaponized to silence dissent and shame opposition. If these proposals were truly about helping children, they wouldn’t be attacking the one technology that protects vulnerable people, encryption, including children themselves, activists, journalists, and victims of abuse.

      Once the infrastructure for total surveillance is in place, it will never be dismantled without revolution. History is clear: power concedes nothing voluntarily. There will be no going back. The moment we compromise, we lose everything, and we will not get it back without blood.

      There is no middle ground between liberty and submission. This is not a policy debate. This is a war for the future of human autonomy. We must reject this system entirely, not tweak it, not reform it, but destroy it at its root. To preserve freedom, we must be absolutely ungovernable.

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      are europeans just as bad at not reading beyond the headlines as americans?

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      Oh it’s easy, anyone talking about “child pornography” is obviously just using manipulative emotional talking points related to children to cloud the discussion. This person has forfeited their right to free speech and has outed themselves as an enemy of self-determination.

      You can tell because all the people invoking “think of the children” never actually care about children in their action, except maybe for their children, but not children as an abstract concept.

      What they really want is to read your emails, your correspondence, know your plans and your thoughts so they can subjugate you and enslave you for their own benefits. Those people are the enemy of every human and should be treated with less mercy than witches at Salem.

      Stop playing their game, they ALWAYS do this and they always brow beat their little transparent evil plans.

      You want my answer when they ask “how will you be able to distinguish between encrypted child pornography”, you go to the person that asked and punch their clock right the fuck out, take that you fucking dickhead ! And then spit in their face as they go down.

      If you care about children how about you don’t fucking cut their food ration out of the budget, you horrible ghouls and vampires !

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      Easy: encrypt CSAM. If the hashes match… Gotta have the encryption key, though. But you mustn’t use for decryption. Only encryption

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        PhotoDNA already exists. But you would have to break end to end encryption on a lot of services to run such server-side checks (as client-side checks are not trustworthy)

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    EU: We are not going to read your chats or look at your photos, we just stop the CP.

    People: so how will you know what chats and photos contain CP?

    EU: Just trust me bro…

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    Ok listen some of you will have to become politicians & get them life-imprisonment sentences

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    I’m actually starting to think 25/7 monitoring of all digital communications is actually a good idea.

    For politicians.

    It’s the only way to sure they’re accountable to the public. This should be the trade off. You enter into politics and literally the only privacy you ever have is when you’re in the bathroom.

    Every fart, sneeze, cough, every email you send, every text you send on a phone, website you visit, is public record.