Consumers are not only cancelling their Disney subscriptions, they’re boycotting the companies who advertise with affiliates owned by Nexstar and Sinclair.

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  • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Ok I guess this is related to Jimmy Kimmel… Can someone explain his comments for those non-Americans of us who are out of the loop. He said the maga types are desperately trying to convince people the Charlie Kirk’s killer isn’t one of them. Does that mean he thinks that guy was a right wing maga idiot? Because everything I’ve heard makes it sound like he was left wing, pro trans, etc.

    What was he talking about? Was Kirk’s killer a Trump supporter??

    • entwine@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      The killer was a college-age white boy from Utah from a religious and self-proclaimed “gun toting” Republican family (which is weird btw, to declare your family as part of a political group). We don’t know if he’s a Trump supporter, but it’s very likely that he at least was at one point in his life. The scary part (for them) is that he represents growing disillusionment with MAGA among one of ther most important groups.

      The dude is the exact demographic targeted not just by MAGA, but specifically Kirk’s organization. Kimmel’s comment was about MAGA’s immediate attempts to claim (without any evidence) that the killer was instead a transgender bogeyman, with many influencers even calling for civil war against the left.

      But the important thing is that Kimmel got canceled because the Trump admin threatened to revoke the network’s broadcast licenses (without which, they can’t operate). The Kirk comment was obviously just a cover, because MAGA has been attacking left-leaning media, and the comment itself was not offensive to anyone. That’s government censorship, violating the constitution to attack his political opponents. They thought that people would be angry enough about the Kirk killing to let this slide, but even MAGA allies have pushed back against it.

    • kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      He said a pretty innoculus thing about right-wing media trying so hard to make the Kirk shooter fit their agenda (which they objectively were), and Disney thought they should fire him over it because it would make the president mad at them (it did). He wasn’t directly referring to the shooter or Kirk’s politics, just the reaction from right-wing media.

      As far as the facts are concerned we don’t seem to know much. The Kirk shooter was not clearly politically aligned to any party, and all the details about his trans roommate are relatively unsubstantiated (imo).

      It also doesn’t help that the current FBI director, Kash Patel, appears to be trying to spin a very specific narrative (also seen in other recent crimes). This makes it harder to trust some of the evidence from the FBI (e.g. the alleged text logs from the killer to his roommate that admit to the crime and corroborate a bunch of evidence, but somehow reveal no new evidence in the process)

      • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        He said a pretty innoculus thing about right-wing media trying so hard to make the Kirk shooter fit their agenda

        He didn’t though, he said they were

        desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

        It just doesn’t make any sense as far as I can see.

        The Kirk shooter was not clearly politically aligned to any party, and all the details about his trans roommate are relatively unsubstantiated (imo).

        He was reportedly into left wing politics and killed Kirk because he was spreading hatred. Hardly screams “maga” does it?

        • kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 months ago

          I never said he was maga. I said current evidence cannot place him neatly into any political box. Here are some of the sources I checked while writing my previous comment, so feel free to read them yourself.

          MSN

          NPR

          ABC

          CBS

          BBC Okay this one says he was leaning left-wing and gay/trans-rights, according to his Mormon mother (Mormons are a religious cult that tends to lean conservative and anti-gay rights). You can decide for yourself whether you want to trust her judgement on this.

          It might be hard to notice from outside America, but right-wing media has been slowly and deliberately converting itself into a massive propaganda machine over the last 40-50 years. We’ve finally reached the point where facts barely matter in those circles, and anyone in a place of authority can dump whatever they want to be true into the public consciousness. You should take what you read from right-wing sources with a huge grain if salt.

          Also, if he had a clear left-wong ideology, you’d expect to see some people on the internet deifying him like Luigi Mangione.

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            2 months ago

            Yeah, to the Mormon mom, he’s probably a leftist extremist now because he lived with a trans person and didn’t seethe with hate toward them.

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    What are the groups that advertise with Sinclair and Nexstar? I’ve got a lil hankering for some cancel culture.

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      2 months ago

      Not saying you didn’t read the article, but your comment could be interpreted as thinking that advertisers are pulling out because they disagree with Kimmel coming back, but it’s actually backwards.

      The reason they’re pulling out of advertising is because people are also boycotting companies that advertise with Nexstar/Sinclair to discourage advertisers, and hurt their revenue.

      I’m not saying the advertisers are good guys or motivated by anything other than money, but we should definitely encourage more of them to stop advertising there. If anything, start buying from the ones that pulled out.