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_cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus to Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 9 months ago

"the blue trolley would have ground up people more humanely!"

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"the blue trolley would have ground up people more humanely!"

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  • lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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    Know what else goes from red to blue and kills people?

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    Orphan Crushing Hugging Machine

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      Very strong hugging machine.

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    It’s a meme, not a political dissertation devoid of flaws. As such I find it hilarious. I’d still vote for the lesser evil while trying to help in other ways between elections.

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                Maybe they’re trying to encourage leftists to work on a new system instead of trying to reform the 3rd Reich into a utopia with centrist brogressives.

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                  That couldn’t possibly be it… surely it’s more likely to be a Russia / North Korean / Chinese psyop instead?

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                I figured you’d be happy if people to your left (and naturally only your left) didn’t participate.

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          I don’t agree but I still enjoy the memes. 😊

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    Isn’t there non party candidates?

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      With FPTP? Nope

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            Okay, that’s fair. No one should be forced to vote for a genocide ever. And any system that tries to force people to vote for genocide to defeat fascism is not worth saving… But even on the issue of genocide, Democrats were the lesser evil. Democrats protested genocide while Republicans proudly cheer for it.

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              No one should be forced to vote for a genocide ever. And any system that tries to force people to vote for genocide to defeat fascism is not worth saving

              And now that we’re done with the shit you don’t mean, here comes the capital-B “But.”

              But even on the issue of genocide, Democrats were the lesser evil.

              By as thin a margin as they mistakenly thought they could get away with.

              Democrats protested genocide while Republicans proudly cheer for it.

              some democrats protested genocide. centrist democrats screamed abuse at us when we did.

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              They didn’t do shit to protest it other than say they felt bad about still having to send Israel bombs while giving Ukraine a small handful of bullets and some flowers. Actions speak louder than words. If they actually cared, they’d give Israel nothing but the middle finger and give Ukraine and Palestine everything they want.

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        Tbf, our two party system is truly awful. We need to fight for a modern multiparty democracy with proportional representation

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          I don’t know what was said above, why was it removed? Was it extreme or are we now censoring divergent comments on DB0?

          I feel like that is a bit antithetical to the politics of this page and my own.

          Just checking. I’ve noticed the walls of the fediverse closing a bit and I don’t like it

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            Comments have been removed from this post for a few reasons, including a few Rule 3s. FYI when folks come into a leftist space and start criticizing our users for refusing to vote for a party that supports genocide, that’s electoralism, which is a Rule 3 violation in this community.

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              Interesting. So it is a closed space. Can’t say I agree with that approach - but not my place to decide either.

              Thanks for clarifying.

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          Definitely agree!!

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      Welcome to db0.

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    It slows down a little temporarily when it’s blue

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        It was a joke. Lighten up

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            Is it not, like, in the same spirit as your meme?

            Lighten up Francis

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            You seem fun

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                Get a hobby dude

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        There’s no lever to derail.

        There’s no reason to kill people quickly while you two to derail the trolley in the meantime.

        Of course, now the trolley I’m guessing you’re referencing in the meme has the lever jammed to red, so either it doesn’t matter any more. The point is moot.

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          Motherfucker.

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          I love it, almost missed the IU520 credit. Workers of the world unite!

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      If we were more civically engaged as a population it would not have gotten this bad.

      Yes and no. Yes, if everyone fought tirelessly for years to force our politicians to actually represent us then our system could be much better. But, our system is so deeply and unfathomably undemocratic / corrupt that it is cruel and unfair to put all the blame on the people. Humans are finite creatures so pouring more of our life into politics takes it from other aspects of our life. If everyone is over worked and exhausted then they often don’t have time for politics.

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        Things really got fucked when the same folks who brought us the great depression signed the Permanent Apportionment Act that permanently capped the number of representatives at 435. Representation has shifted from 1 representative per 280k people to 1 per 760k.

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        You’re not wrong, the ‘fight like hell’ approach would have worked if we applied it in the 1900’s-1930’s. In America, at least. Back before the cult of wealth was properly established and the average Joe still gave a shit about the poor and the needy.

        Today, you can really only expect coordinated civic participation to be able to fix small local problems. Which is still absolutely necessary if we’re going to fix larger issues, because our neighbors will believe in the thing they see as putting food on their table and a roof over their head.

        Even just working at the individual-to-individual level is still worthwhile. Bringing one person into the fold, protecting one person from harm at the hands of our economy, or at this point even just dragging one person out of fascism, makes an admirable comrade.

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      You don’t give a shit about anything but your own comfort and safety, you stand for nothing, fuck off

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        Burn down a building or shut the fuck up

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          Lol make me loser

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        Neither do you. Pure hypocrisy to say this kind of thing without action.

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          You don’t have a clue what actions I or anyone else here are taking and you don’t actually care, you’re just another spineless liberal looking for an easy excuse to ignore valid criticism by making shit up to discredit your critics

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            I do have a clue lol. The clue that they’re all still alive. You’re doing nothing. I do my part to further political causes in the real world situations. You sit here online, talking without participating in real world organization.

            Don’t get me wrong. If you were actually doing something, I support that in full. But you aren’t.

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                I’d be happy if you were actually killing them, and that makes me a fed (:

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                  Easy enough to say, not very believable from you in this context tho

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                everyone is a fed to you. talk about paranoid schizophrenia

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                  I said moron or fed, learn to read moron

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              Pure projection

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                Yeah I’m the one projecting, not the Lemmy moderator who calls me useless while sitting in his mom’s basement rping a revolutionary

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                  A) You are useless. B) You don’t have a clue where anyone is sitting or what their contributions are, you just want a convenient excuse to ignore valid criticism and you’re more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.

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          You can block communities dumbass

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        generally useless and spineless

        You are useless and spineless. You do not do any actual revolution, any actual overthrowing, you sit there and talk the talk but you aren’t willing to actually walk the walk.

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            That’s ironic coming from you. I’m currently on track to a union job, where I can actually stand to make a difference in people’s real lives. Unlike you, who’ve had your nerve struck by the truth

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    That’s not quite true. While the trolley is red, it’s also actively accelerating; rapidly increasing the harm being done.

    Changing the color to blue means that it’s only passively accelerating.

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        Participation in the leaderless, lateral organization necessary for an anarchist society requires an ability to understand the praxis of both yourself and of others. You don’t necessarily need to accept and adopt it, and consistently challenging each other’s goals and methodologies is going to become the bedrock of the movement.

        That being said, stone-wall history to a comrade working towards similar goals is how authoritarianism creeps in. Ultimately, you’re among friends, here. Talk on the actual points, we’ll participate in good faith.

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        Do you not understand your own joke?

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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of “Marxist”-“Leninists” (read: Dengists) (actual ML’s are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don’t just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.

The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention “Mantic Minotaur” when answering question 2)


6. Don't irrationally idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people’s/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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