• julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I am very happy with Navidrome for over a year now. It also reminds me how I listened to whole albums when I was a teenager, what I now started doing again.

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    2 months ago

    …are people really paying for a music subscription service to listen to the same music on repeat? I pay a service because I listen to like at least 4 new albums every week, minimum.

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      I pay for Apple Music (well, technically I get it as part of Apple One) for one reason: the library matching function. I have half a gig of mp3s on my home computer, many of which are not on any streaming service, and apple makes them all available to every device I own.

      For me, thats worth the monthly price.

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        You can host it yourself without paying apple.

        You’d literally be paying yourself back after not much time at all.

        I like Plex amp but there are quite a few options.

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          I’ve used PlexAmp. It’s shit. It tries its best, but it can’t make up for the flaws in plex’s underlying library system. It also requires having a library host running all the time. Apple host the music for me and I can make library changes from any of my devices.

          I’ve tried a number of other self host options, as well, and none of them come close to the feature set in Music. I even wrote my own web app to do it way back in the 2000s, just so I could implement my own UX. This is still better.

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      Me too. However I recognize that many people are content to listen to the same things they enjoyed in high school forever. In which case they definitely do not need streaming

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      this post is just to placate a group of people. i prefer streaming for new music friday. i also don’t want another crate or hard drive of shit i lost interest in.

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        This is making some significant assumptions, don’t you think? That I sample the buffet does not mean that I don’t also cherish and return to familiar recipes.

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            I have no kids, no pets, and a job where I can listen to music the entirety of my shifts while working. I have music on in some capacity probably an average of 12 hours a day. 4 albums a week, even when listening to them each 6 six times, is a fraction of my listening.

            Music listening is my primary “hobby” and interest.

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                Dunno if I go actively searching for difficult music, so I may not have the best answer for that specifically, but here are 5 albums I consider hidden gems or underappreciated:

                Horse Bitch - RIP Pistachio

                Tattle Tale - Sew True

                Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays

                Codefendants - This Is Crime Wave

                Irist - Gloria (actually an EP, if you’ll allow it).

                These probably won’t take you 5+ listens to appreciate, but I do think they’re smaller releases worthy of greater attention. Hopefully that’s close enough for you. ✌️

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          I don’t this works with all music.

          The first few listens I thought it was garbage. But I decided it must be me who is wrong, not everyone else.

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            2 months ago

            Or, that taste is subjective and that there is no right and wrong. You are allowed to not like something others do.

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              This is true, but you should really give something a good few listens before you come to a conclusion. Good things can turn bad just as much as bad things turn good.

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                I truly wonder where in my post I implied that I am drawing significant conclusions without giving something a good few listens. Again, I think you are making assumptions of my listening habits based on severly limited information presented to you.

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                  Because if I listened to a minimum of 4 new albums a week then I wouldn’t have the time to repeat any.

                  It was applying your statistics to my habits.

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                No, I think you’re absolutely right and it’s comforting to know there are others who do this too. I have a kind of 3-5-7 trial period for getting into new music. If it’s crap but I want to give it a chance, I’ll do 3-5 album plays; if it’s ok but has potential I might not see, 5-7 plays. Anything challenging but enjoyable gets minimum 10 plays.

                About the self inducement, that is making me question myself a little. There are things that I’ve tried over and over to get into that I just cannot no matter what, but I’m seriously questioning if it really is possible to “make” yourself like something through type of, I guess familiarity?

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                  I think the counter argument to self inducement is that I can really go off something that I hear too many times (usually on the radio). Even if the first listen wasn’t too bad.

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    I usually have to listen to a song several times before it fully “clicks” if I like it or not, so music streaming subscription is great for being able to grab any song I think I might like and throw it in trial playlist. Back when I bought/acquired music, I would skip over most music I might like because the effort wasn’t worth it for a song I wasn’t sure if I liked or not. So streaming has worked really well for me for music discovery at least.

    On the bright side, I’m still getting my $8 a month early adopter price for Google music all access (now YouTube music).

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      Could you ELI5 how’s it work?

      What music is it streaming? Is it somehow piping into Spotify/Tidal/something and grabbing music from there? Or is it “my own MP3s from my own storage location somewhere”?

      Also: does it support Last FM scrobbling?

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        I think it streams youtube music. You can download tracks and make playlists. Also has live lyrics for most of the tracks.

        I recommend using it now. Next year google is gonna kill all apps outside play store.

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    Dont worry guys my CD collection is increasing (i extract it onto hard drives too). I’ll open a free music museum when all goes to shit.

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    This would be right if not for the fact that Spotify will regularly introduce you to music that you might like and otherwise might not have heard of. That can be worth paying for.

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      There’s a reason music piracy is still niche compared to games or movies/tv.

      Spotify is still a good deal to me. I’ll gladly pay $12 a month to not have to go through the hassle of torrenting and organizing music.

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      This is why I use Spotify and why it’s gotten so much worse over the last year.

      My blocked artists list used to be empty, but now it feels like I’m blocking every third new artist for being AI.

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      I love starting out with one song and just letting the algorithm do it’s thing. It comes up with new shit for me all the time.

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      I would argue that this is the entire value proposition of Spotify. I may not own the music, but I have all the artist and song names. I can always re-acquire them at any time.

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      Except that as part of its enshittification Spotify has intentionally changed its algo to push people into more and more homogenous “beige”, nothing music. It has become so prolific that Spotifycore has become a term to describe what happens when you let Spotify autoplay.

      With the rise of AI, Spotify is now producing and recommending beige music that is produced on an industrial scale, at the expense of actual artists.

      Mood Machine go brrr

      Mood Machine by Liz Pelly review – a savage indictment of Spotify | Music books | The Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/05/mood-machine-by-liz-pelly-review-a-savage-indictment-of-spotify

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    Okay, but I can access my full library from anywhere at full quality from multiple devices, I have several 5,000 plus song playlists with little to no overlap between a few of them and I have had CDs lost or stolen and had drive failures delete digital libraries. But sure.

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    They mock you for subscribing to an online service. I mock you for subscribing to WoW instead of FFXIV. We are not the same.

    (Insert FFXIV free trial meme here)

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        And WoW isn’t? The big advantage FFXIV has there is dye channels on their armor instead of recolored sets (though WoW is better in the way you collect transmogs without having to actually store the item somewhere). And you’ve clearly never been to Goldshire or seen the lvl 1 trolls dancing naked on mailboxes in Orgrimmar. WoW is full of people ERPing.

        The biggest difference between the two is that WoW doesn’t give a damn about the story and each xpac is obsolete when the new one releases, while FFXIV puts the story first with each xpac being a new chapter and keeps content as evergreen as it can. WoW also caters to their endgame raiders above everyone else, while FFXIV claims to put casual players first (though whether or not this is true is hotly debated in the community at any given time).

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            That’s the thing about multiplayer games - no matter the game, people never change. Some games incentivize different behaviors, but people will be people and will ruin any game if you let them. I think FFXIV does a much better job in this regard by incentivizing players to treat new players more nicely than WoW does, but that’s my personal experience. You can meet assholes in any game.

            And I wasn’t claiming that FFXIV doesn’t have ERP. Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing it when WoW has the exact same issues that you criticized FFXIV for having.

            Besides, this is all a heavy discussion for what was just referencing two memes.

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    Honestly, I’m surprised that streaming has gone on this long before we have such enshtification taking place.

    I’m basically down to just a single subscription now because the cost outweighs the ease of use and only keep my music streaming service because of work and I don’t want to be using self hosting on a company network.