Thank you for that detailed breakdown - appreciate it. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered someone claiming that queerness is bourgeois, actually. Is that a common claim?
To add to what SpookyBogMonster already said: On an international stage the big proponents of these views nowadays are Xi Jiping’s faction in China or North Korea, while even Cuba (which had upheld these views for a long time) have now abandoned this position.
In the US and in Europe, it’s a fringe position among leftists, mostly popular with those who also hold favourable views of Xi Jiping’s China and North Korea. It’s a very vocal minority though and infamously one of the key developers of the Lemmy platform is one of those.
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered someone claiming that queerness is bourgeois, actually. Is that a common claim?
This actually goes back to the USSR in the 30s, where, after a repeal of Tsarist law in the country led to a ~Decade long sexual revolutio.
But Stalin’s rise to power, and subsequent anxieties related to geopolitical isolation and the buildup to WW2, led to a socially reactionary turn, and homosexuality was criminalized.
The reason given by some was that Homosexuality was bourgeoisie decadence.
This is, of course, silly. But that’s a line that persists among some ML parties. For example, in the UK, most ML orgs still hold to this line of thinking. While your pro-lgbt socialist orgs lean heavily Trotskyist.
Thank you for that detailed breakdown - appreciate it. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered someone claiming that queerness is bourgeois, actually. Is that a common claim?
To add to what SpookyBogMonster already said: On an international stage the big proponents of these views nowadays are Xi Jiping’s faction in China or North Korea, while even Cuba (which had upheld these views for a long time) have now abandoned this position.
In the US and in Europe, it’s a fringe position among leftists, mostly popular with those who also hold favourable views of Xi Jiping’s China and North Korea. It’s a very vocal minority though and infamously one of the key developers of the Lemmy platform is one of those.
This actually goes back to the USSR in the 30s, where, after a repeal of Tsarist law in the country led to a ~Decade long sexual revolutio.
But Stalin’s rise to power, and subsequent anxieties related to geopolitical isolation and the buildup to WW2, led to a socially reactionary turn, and homosexuality was criminalized.
The reason given by some was that Homosexuality was bourgeoisie decadence.
This is, of course, silly. But that’s a line that persists among some ML parties. For example, in the UK, most ML orgs still hold to this line of thinking. While your pro-lgbt socialist orgs lean heavily Trotskyist.