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There is special category for Internet of Shit devices, that not only are cloud based but also require a persistent connection to a server to even execute basic functions.
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Waiting for the reports that cars couldn’t be used because of the aws issue
lol, e-waste beds.
A reminder to not buy “smart” home appliances unless you can self-host it’s internet connectivity or its “smart” features are optional.
You had me until “unless”.
smart home appliances are tolerable if they have 0 (zero, cero, null, ling, sifr, mee-then, noll) internet access
Yup, Zigbee all the way! Although that new Matter protocol seems kinda promising as well
You also have wifi with tasmota or esphome. Some products come with optional cloud features turned off by default (and no automatic updates), like Shelly. You can also flash them, but the factory firmware is so unobtrusive that I don’t bother.
Lol wow. We truly are fucked as a species.
L.O.L! Cant wait to the next solarflare hope they swat the sleepers like flies
After reading the post and sifting through the comments I had this realization, that’s probably more about advertising than anything else, I guess, but… Don’t you find it strange that in the last few years, there’s a non-zero number of people who stumble upon an article like this, on lemmy, out of all places, and think “I didn’t even know that existed, yet, it’s very obvious that enough people use it for it to make headlines”? Is it just me? 🤔
What a stupid fucking product.
Sorry, I meant to say “stupid fucking people buying stupid fucking products.”
Right, and we should protect them by passing laws penalizing companies from such shitty software. Cuz the average person can’t access the source code.
Beds are often used for fucking. Beds are fucking products.
I am more shocked that there are people who are interested in “smart” furnitures and appliance.
Smart devices are fine - it usually just means remote control or status. Plenty of use in that.
The problem is that no one can be arsed to buy a local hub and figure out how to connect it, so every company just builds an app and makes it cloud connected. That way they can farm your stupidity.
It’s not hard to make a device that works locally (it’s way easier than making a cloud service) but it’s far less lucrative.
That being said if I bought a $2000 mattress cover and it didn’t work offline I’d have gotten my fucking money back.
I can completely understand it, if you ignore all the privacy issues and potential hacks.
For example, a smart fridge. Imagine a fridge that tracks the expiry date of everything inside and warns you before something goes bad – or detects when something goes bad based on the off-gassing that it produces. Imagine it gets to know your purchase patterns and suggests items for your grocery list when you’re running low. Or, if you fully trust it, it could even order those things for you.
Or, smart lights. Imagine lights that are nice and bright in the winter when you don’t get enough sunlight. Then imagine those lights are smart enough to start dimming and getting “warmer” at a certain point in the evening on your personal schedule, making your body more prepared for sleep. Add motion / presence sensors so that the lights turn on when you go into a room, and turn off when everybody leaves the room. Most of the time a light switch isn’t a burden, but if you’re carrying things it can be a bit annoying, and we all know kids are pretty bad about turning things off when they leave a room.
In a world where you didn’t have to worry about the privacy issues, the bugs had all been worked out, and so-on, smart appliances could be great. But, we’re on v0.1 and so I’m extremely cautious in every “smart” device I use.
Reminds me that nurse interview in Spain during the blackout:
“But your hospital doesn’t have a backup generator?? -Oh we have solar panels, we could be running off the grid! But the power management system requires an Internet connection, and it’s down!”
The nurse knew that the power management system required an Internet connection? That’s one geeky nurse.
Still, I have hope with things like solar panels. I think these are likely to be teething pains there. Being off-grid on a solar panel is probably a pretty common situation, so they’re probably going to eventually work out the kinks. As long as there isn’t a monopoly on power management systems, or regulatory capture by the companies that make them, probably the ability to work disconnected from both the power and Internet grids will eventually happen. But, with Internet-of-Things stuff, there’s often a commercial incentive to mine people’s data and lock them into a subscription service model. So, that’s really going to require regulation to fix.
smart BEDS? Look, I got a bed that has a removal part that has USB chargers, that is all I need… What the FUCK do I need a bed with an internet connection?
Look at how much capitalism creates progress and drives us as a species to better ourselves. Next step, how to make money off people breathing air and sell them a subscription for it so they can continue to consume
thats easy, pollute the air so much that you have to buy consumable gas mask filters to breathe
Exactly what I was thinking. Petroleum companies have been working on it for years I’m sure
Then tens of thousands or millions would die when a server goes down, but “shit happens” and there was a small line in the EULA where the provider deny all responsability if anythind bad happens from a service failure.
Thoughts and prayers, though!
Did you know that with our Super+ package, you get redundant servers switching automatically to the next working one?
Nestle enters the chat
“Water isn’t a human right”
Hail skroob
I was today years old when I realized that Skroob is an anagram of Brooks.
Whaaaaaaaat
Not that it isn’t wildly ridiculous and stupid to have an internet connected bed, but couldn’t you just unplug it if it’s overheating?
That’s what customer support would have told the poor clueless customers if the hotline had not been an AI agent running on AWS!
Damn, that’s bleak…
Dont blame the victim, those poor people couldn’t sleep, as if they could critically think /s
But then it’s not a smart beer, is it Todd?
