• socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
    1·
    2 个月前

    That one scene in the first episode where the female protagonist is forcibly strapped to a chair spread eagle and has her clothes ripped off and we spend like a solid 5 minutes doing gratuitous fan service while she convinces aliens not to rape her, completely ruining my ability to recommend the show to people.

  • Mercuri@ani.socialEnglish
    1·
    2 个月前

    For me it’s Reincarnated as a Vending Machine. A lot of people like it and it’s already in season 3 but I couldn’t do it. And I’m normally a huge sucker for isekai. I gave it 3 episodes and I was done.

    • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      8·
      2 个月前

      I honestly wish Japan would split their genres a lil more. Shonen feels like such a default “anime” genre, and yeah most of it is just generic drivel. Then something actually wild and interesting comes along like DanDaDan or Gachiakata or SANDA, but you basically have to find them through word of mouth or knowing the animation studios.

    • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      2 个月前

      The pirate cut of Naruto is good. All filler removed, some edits and subtitle changes to make it in line with the manga.

      You still may not like it but that’s what came to my mind for quality shonen.

      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        4·
        2 个月前

        Could I get a lil more info as to where to find this? I’ve long held the opinion that I would actually enjoy Naruto if there was a recut of it similar to One Pace. The big thing that causes me to bounce off it is the anime’s love of flashbacks.

          • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            2 个月前

            Damn, even this isn’t quite what I was looking for.

            I know the reason is to save costs, but holy fucking shit the anime just loves repeating scenes huh? I think the most egregious is the flashbacks to stuff already shown in the same episode, it’s like there’s only 8 minutes of actual content in a 22 minute episode. Part of the strength of One Pace is that a lot of those repeated scenes are completely cut out, which condenses a couple of episodes into one.

    • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11·
      2 个月前

      I’ve been feeling this way, too. Most shows with dumbass teenage main characters are a pass for me, nowadays. I think it’s mainly because I’m getting older and they aren’t very relatable anymore.

      • shani66@ani.social
        7·
        2 个月前

        Eh, I might getting older but the old stuff still hits better. Sure there will be a genuinely good show here or there, but standards have never been lower and slop has never been this popular.

      • MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social
        5·
        2 个月前

        It just seems like most Shonen have the same plot line of “the power of self confidence and friendship saves the day!” And it’s just so trite at this point to me. And that isn’t to say that Shonen can’t have a good plotline. But it’s usually some other genre with a sprinkling of Shonen.

        That being said, there really is no accounting for taste. It’s the most popular genre for a reason after all.

      • MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social
        1·
        2 个月前

        I can count on one hand the number of Shonen anime that I’ve enjoyed. There’s been a few that were a “X” + shonen. But it had to be like…a 75/25 split.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        111·
        2 个月前

        Is it? Shonen is a revolving door of tropes, you’d be hard pressed to find a shonen anime that actually shakes the formula up.

        • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 个月前

          Personally I dont like shonen much either, but I don’t understand this argument of tropes=bad.

          Just because something has a lot of tropes doesn’t mean it is bad. Tropes are tropes for a reason: it clearly means these are popular or highly liked/relatable vessels for storytelling. Not every story needs to be novel and invent new storytelling methods to be a good story. Sometimes, people just want more of the same.

          The Hero’s Journey is a perfect example. Many, many stories follow this trope. And among those, some of the best stories of all time, including The Hobbit, The Odyssey, Dante’s Inferno, Beowulf, Treasure Island, etc. Literal masterpieces, peak storytelling. Just because there are other stories, or even a lot of stories, that follow the Hero’s Journey trope doesn’t make the ones I listed bad, nor does it automatically make every story that follows the trope bad either.

          • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            5·
            2 个月前

            It isn’t necessarily that tropes are bad, it’s more like once you’ve seen a trope you can recognize the pattern and once you recognize the pattern you can more or less determine what’s going to happen.

            Is the Hero’s Journey a bad trope? Not at all, as you’ve said — some of my most beloved stories are structured around the Hero’s Journey. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Redwall, but all of the books in that ‘world’ by Brian Jacques are very close to my heart. It’s also part of why I understand that once you’ve experienced at least one or two good Hero’s Journey’s — you’ve more or less experienced them all.

            Is it wrong to be entertained by them anyway? No, I hope you don’t think I’m saying that.

            • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 个月前

              I didn’t think you said that, I was mentioning this argument as one I don’t understand because recognizing a trope or predicting a story is an unusual and IMO “invalid” reason to not like something, and your comment seemed similar at first. I hear this a lot from a family member of mine who is anti-anime but also has a severe case of the Sonic the Hedgehog autism.

              He says “once you watch one anime, you’ve seen them all because they all have the same tropes.” Which just doesn’t make sense to me. Just because you read The Hobbit doesn’t mean you don’t have to read Dante’s Inferno or Beowulf anymore. Its like the only thing he watches is the trope rather than the actual story being told, or the world/characters of the story.

              Initially, I chalked it up to probably some “side-effect” (not the exact word I would use but I cannot think of a proper word for it)of autism, but then I walked in on him just casually watching Totally Spies and Naruto. And I asked him why he watches those and not other anime I suggest, and he just said “because these are peak and your recommends are trash.” Like, is Cowboy Bebop or Trigun (the original) trash? Compared to Naruto? Really? And I know he is not the only person that talks like this.

              I wish I could understand, but I probably never will.

              • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                2 个月前

                So Cowboy Bebop is not a shonen. It’s a seinen Apparently it isn’t a seinen, but it would be if it started as manga. Trigun is a little odd because it shifted from shonen to seinen somewhere along its publication history.

                I point that out because seinen/josei compared to shonen/shojo is more or less the equivalent of young adult fiction to children’s fiction.

                Children’s fiction is supposed to be easy to understand. It should be filled with trope’s, kids can’t really empathize with things that are more complicated. Or maybe they’re at an age where they can but maybe shouldn’t, i.e. show with themes of suicide for an already teetering on depressed teenager.

                All that to say that I think your family members perspective is… severely limited. Not watching Trigun because you’d rather rewatch Naruto is 100% their choice but… it’s a pretty stupid way to live your life.

                “Pff, why would I watch these ninjas do magic? I can just watch space wizards do magic and fight with lightsabers. Naruto is trash, Star Wars is peak.” Or something.

                Edit: I’m completely wrong about Bebop, it is not a seinen because it never started as a manga. Apparently that is an important distinction. I think if it had started as a manga, it would be a seinen.

      • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        The art style was stabbing my eyes back then. I could not do the thick line character outlines in the setting they chose. If they had a different background art style it could have worked for me but that was not happening.

    • binarytobis@lemmy.world
      111·
      2 个月前

      I was the same. Watched the first season as soon as it came out and thought “It’s a little murder-porny but I’m kind of intrigued to see where the plot goes.” Then after the first season the plot got worse instead and I lost interest. People seem to love it though.

  • BunScientist@lemmy.zipEnglish
    41·
    2 个月前

    I heard so many people describing Nichijou as the greatest comedy of them all, I liked it but it wasn’t as funny as I expected, they also started repeating some jokes with faster pacing in the 2nd half for some reason

  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    2 个月前

    For me? Frieren.

    I am still gonna try two more episodes, but episode one was boring and underwhelming to me. Not that anime needs to have action, because I also like slow films (one of my favorites being Rear Window), but episode 1 of Frieren did not hold my attention that well.

    At the end I said out loud “this is what everyone is hyping about?”

    Maybe I change my mind by episode 3, but if not I guess I will just have to leave my enjoyment of it to the memes.

    • MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      5·
      2 个月前

      took me till episode 3 till I was hooked. But for me it was Steins Gate. Tried it 4 times over 6 years or so, never got beyond episode 2.

      • Endmaker@ani.socialEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        Understandable. I have dropped Steins;Gate before too.

        Personally, I find that it only started getting good in the second half (i.e. episode 13 and beyond).

    • Newsteinleo@midwest.socialEnglish
      71·
      2 个月前

      I loved Frieren, but I get that it’s not for everyone. It is a story about grieving, building relationships, passing wisdom on to a next generation. Because of that I think it appeals to people that have experienced loss and are older.

    • Butterpaderp@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 个月前

      It’s complicated, cause there is a good story there, you just won’t see it until like 100 episodes into the show. Really slow start to it. Also doesn’t help that alot of the early seasons are pretty dated now in animation style, and there’s a ton of filler and recaps. I can’t even watch the show myself, but I’ve been reading it since the beginning.

      Hoping they go through one day when the show’s done and make a condensed & updated version. You could probably remove half of the episodes as it is, no joke.

      • Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        13·
        2 个月前

        For those interested, “One Pace” is a fan edit that removes a lot of recap and shit. I just got my GF caught up not too long ago using one pace and I think it is the way to go if you insist on watching it and not reading it. One pace isn’t caught up, but it will get you through a lot of it.

      • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 个月前

        I just wanna know when the furry character shows up (the cat looking thing with the pink hat; Chopper, I think is his name?). That character is what made me wanna see the show in the first place and I have no idea what season they’re introduced in.

        • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          5·
          2 个月前

          Very early on, they’ll be in season 2 of the Netflix live action remake. Episode 81 of the anime.

          I typically tell people to watch through Arlong Park. If you aren’t interested in it by that arc, it’s just not for you.

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 个月前

      for real. it’s just…not good, as a new adult viewer.

      I’m sure plenty of people feel the same about DBZ, but I saw my first episodes as a young teen and loved it.