• Steve Dice@sh.itjust.works
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    The maths department in my uni receives (or did when I was there) several proofs every year on general formulas to solve equations of degree >5.

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    ITT: Science and Engineering users debunking others attempts to contribute from an entry level

    And then there’s Maths where all you need is a fresh pair of eyes.

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    First of all, if you have a theory they rejected, clearly its because they are afraid of your massive intellect, pure jealousy to the point of refusing you entirely. So that means your theory is 100% fact, and you should write a book all about how you are a genius ahead of their time, and sell it on Amazon becoming a number 1 best seller and use that to propel you into micro-celebrity status and live off the royalties because thats what smart people do. Duh.

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        No no no you don’t understand, lobsters get a massive jolt of oxytocin after fighting cause men are supposed to fight! Or whatever the fuck Xanax Peterson was going on about.

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          Here is the entire premise boiled-down:

          “It’s totally natural and normal to have an upper-class telling you what to do and lording over you, in fact class division is the most normal thing in the world because lobsters do stuff that looks kind of like it, if it bothers you, you’re just not testosteroning hard enough.”

          • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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            Love that testosterone argument those idiots bring up all the time. Like I got the shit coming out my ears! I’m not like styro pyro high, but I went bald in my twenties and have irritating hair in my INNER ear! And despite being lazy AF I’m still fairly well built. I would gladly give up half of my test to whoever wants it. Being irrationally angry about people driving around with their brights on is definitely not a fun pass time.

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              As with so many things about biological chemistry, the reality is so much more complicated than “MOAR TESTOSTERONE MEAN MORE MAN” and having any kind of hormonal imbalance is far more likely to fuck with your entire internal health system and have opposite effects than the typical Andrew Tate follower could imagine.

              Also, I got the Styro Pyro reference, I know he’s a bit of an odd fellow but I wonder if “intense obsession with death rays” is more a product of innate oddness or has anything to do with crazy high testosterone. Maybe we have an as-of-yet undiscovered “laser hormone” waiting to be studied.

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      5 months ago

      Slow down there, we can’t ALL get cabinet positions in the current US presidential administration.

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      People love to repeat this as a way to self-validate feelings of being rejected or less educated than people who put in the commitment and time and energy to learning actual science.

      But most great scientists and researchers and pioneers have had a very strong work ethics and were committed, focused, patient and excruciatingly obsessed with detail, reason and accuracy, not necessarily the hallmarks of the insane.

      Everyone rather be Rick Sanchez than Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar because it seems more fun.

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You’ve gotta either interest someone with the knowledge to pursue it or actually go to the college and gain the knowledge yourself. Because the truth is, unless you can motivate someone to do your thing, your thing isn’t going to be as interesting to others as it is to you, even if it would be revolutionary. There’s a good chance the idea relies on phenomena that only exist because of a lack of understanding (if you aren’t able to go from idea to proof of concept), or maybe require a solution to a very hard problem just hiding below the surface.

    Plus, even with the motivation, if you don’t know enough to do the thing and aren’t in a financial position to control the operation’s finances, there’s a good chance you’ll be discarded once you are no longer needed, which in this case is once they understand your idea. That “sorry, not interested” might actually be a “go away, this is interesting but I don’t think you’ll add anything more to this, so I’ll do it alone”.

    So instead of thinking “this is cool but I have no idea how”, think, “what do I need to learn to better understand my idea and its execution?” Hell, even being able to break it up into discrete and complete steps would be a great start because then you can start hiring out those different steps if you can’t do them, without having to give away the whole thing.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    The biggest problem is that your theories are not going to equate to the depth, degree, and experience of people who’ve been over a decade in Universities studying their own, who receive grants and everything to do so. It may be a revolutionary theory, but every scientist has got their own. That’s what you are competing against. Hell, there are plenty of brainiacs at each other’s throats over whose theory they believe is right.

    I have a personal theory that I believe can encompass a lot of phenomenon, but I lack the graduate level experience or the extraordinary intelligence to raise eyebrows, so it has to remain largely faith based. There are much more knowledgeable people who dismiss the basic core tenets of it. And unless you map it out onto some real math and start making predictions that can raise eyebrows, it will remain that, faith-based. Society doesn’t give a shit about ideas, they give a shit about implementations of those ideas.

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    “I have theories” is great, everyone should have theories and ideas.

    But if you can’t connect them to understood, known physics and systems that have been demonstrated over and over again for centuries, you’re not really contributing anything.

    “I have ideas for a really cool race car shape. I don’t know anything about formula 1, I just have this neat idea. Why won’t professional teams who demonstrate their efforts daily take my design seriously?”

    Go to school, educate yourself with online courses, read every possible criticism or attack on theory, be your own worst critic and THEN if it survives knowledge and critique, you have a chance of being seen and noticed. This isn’t about “encouragement” or “making someone feel better” and it’s certainly not a plot by Big Science to keep the little man down, this is just how the process works and why you have phones and video games and soda dispensers.

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    It’s a special kind of stupid to be too stupid to understand that you’re stupid, to be so stupid you think you’re smart. Man, what a life that must be, blissful ignorance.

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    Hi. People contact me with theories all the time based on my published research. They tend to come from an oversimplified view of the problem.

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    This is actually a pretty good parallel to programming

    With an open source project, you gotta know how to clone a git repo and create a pull request

    With such an advanced field as Physics, you need to have read other studies at a basic level. If you don’t know how to write a basic study, you clearly lack the intelligence to talk about such things at a professional level

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        It’s both really.

        When I was publishing my first paper after sending it in to a professor for review a few times he called me in and went line through line of the whole paper for about 4 hours explaining to me what I needed to fix and why.

        A lot of it were things that came down to experience and that no book education could have given me.

        People that believe they can make significant contributions need to go through the proper process. But ridiculing them before they even attempt is not the way to go.

        A good point that Angela made in her video from what. I remember. I watched it a while ago was that these crackpots always have grand theories. It’s never a small contribution. In that sense. A good filter is just asking them to show why we should listen to them before putting effort into it.

        You think you found a way to make warp drives work ? Show us a prototype.

        Edit. I did live in the midst of academia for a while. But from my experiences. Reaching out to people in other universities. They had no real way of verifying a priori that I was who i said I was. And.no one ever told me to fuck off and very few people ignored me. From memory no one did. So it does make me wonder what kind of insane message that person is sending and to whom.

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          99% of the time when someone is ranting and raving about “mainstream physics rejecting them and driving them away” it’s because that person is an absolute nutter with more ego than brains.

          I am not at all involved in physics in an academic level, but I have spent a lot of time on academic message boards and forums, people really want to help each other and contribute to our collective understanding of the world. The only people who get driven off are people who don’t share this collaborative attitude and think their own ideas are so special and amazing that everyone else is just jealous of them.