Correct though misogynistic isn’t explicitly derogatory while mansplaining always is.

I’ve explained it in multiple and just above as well.

And my point is you didn’t answer the question in your linked comment either.

Yes you did.

So saying someone is mansplaining is sexist in the same way femsplaining is, they’re sex specific derogatory terms for things that need not be gendered.

Yeah no one ever denied that.

No. Saying they’re mansplaining is sexist. It’s a sexist term that’s my point, why are you ok being a sexist. The etymology goes back to an article where the writers intent is to fight fire with fire. To me that’s insane and just makes more sexists or racists or whatever.

Don’t you femsplain to me! That’s appearantly not a sexist thing to say according to you n

I could, and you could have linked the comment. What’s your point? You still dodged the question, why do you think a specifically sexist term from it’s very inception isn’t sexist. Then we move forward to why you’re on with fighting fire with fire but we haven’t gotten there because you simply refuse to accept the obvious.

Correct. That’s a pattern of behavior, it’s the same shit we use to define harassment. That is wholesale different that my question which is based solely on sex and perspective which in my experience is when people are said to be mansplaining. Let’s face it unless you’re fixing with your buddy the only way to use it is as an insult and gendered insults are without question sexist in the same way needlessly gendered toys are.

Link doesn’t work for me, you know you can just link comments correct?

I didn’t ask you anything, I posed an open question you responded to and continue to respond to with walls of text largely about your indignation that I would respond. Similarly use a thesaurus the hard r is also pejorative term.

“woman-babies” gotcha so you’re just a sexist because those are also specifically sexist terms.

Mansplaining doesn’t have centuries of intense persecution, torture, slavery, and many other awful things, things happening to this day, behind it.You are putting mansplaining on that level. Even if I agreed it was misandry, this would be a serious miss-equivocation.

So nothing is offensive unless there’s a history of bigoted use? similarly no one said they are the same but it is a sexist term and the person using it a sexist.

No one is asking for a professional, I’m asking people here that are comfortable using a sexist term why that is, no paper is going to tell me that.

Correct.

They can’t know intent they can assume, their assumption is sexist, the term used to describe it intentionally so. That’s sexism.

Not any woman, if you know a dude and they’re taking down to you and that’s a pattern they’re probably a misogynist. That said saying they’re mansplaining is explicitly sexist, it’s intended to be.

You did not.

Can I drop hard r’s based on race and perception alone, my answer is sure but you’re a racist.

Can you use a sexist term as an insult and not be a sexist? No, the same way I can’t drop hard r’s and that’s ignoring the assumption of gender at all, what if they don’t identify as a man or don’t see you as a woman?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pejorative

: a word or phrase that has negative connotations (see connotation sense 1) or that is intended to disparage or belittle : a pejorative word or phrase

It’s sexist and so is man baby, you’re needlessly gendering shit to make it othered.

You’re literally crying about me doing this to you, just don’t answer and moreover some come to me and cry like I’m making you participate.

Yeah, effort… who needs that shit huh? The easy way is always the best way huh?

Sure and you’re still a racist if you drop hard r’s based on your perception of someone, it’s a fun and easy easy to tell who’s a racist and who simply exists in a racist system.

Experts agree it’s specifically a perjorative sexist term, this weird definition that says it’s in some crazy way not sexist only seems to exist on the Internet likely because it’s very difficult to argue in earnest that the obviously sexist thing you just said isn’t sexist.

Even the sources provided call it pejorative which I dunno if you know means it’s specifically a slur.

Why require me, someone who does not have professional expertise in a subject, to be the person who gives you answers on that subject, rather than the people who have that?

No one said you specifically, you fucking volunteered so drop the crybaby victim bullshit and answer either of the two questions both of you keep dodging.

No. You’re adding random shit that I never said and still avoiding two simple questions.

It’s by definition sexist.

prejudice or discrimination based on sex

And around someone is mansplaining is always sexist though I do legit wonder when your not racist hard R’s come into play.

prejudice or discrimination based on sex

Is it prejudicial or discriminatory based on sex? Then it’s sexist, you may think it’s moral and that’s an argument I guess you could make but there is no question it’s a sexist term in the same way femsplaining would be and btw they both sound extremely dumb.

Colossus is still early then all of those are we still really don’t know exactly when construction started because of state secrets and whatnot.

I’m not asking a paper, I’m asking the people here today.

A. It is sexist, its a gender specific derogatory slur. I’m not even sure how that’s questionable.

B. I specifically removed a pattern of behavior so we’re solely talking about two factors sex and perception. No one is denying dudes can be sexist and perhaps there is some gender bias in it but throwing gendered insults around is sexist, it just is there may be some beneficit purpose behind it’s use but racists argue the same.

How is using a sexist term not in fact sexist. I perhaps expected the tolerance paradox but no one even tried that they simply didn’t the fact the wm that the term is sexist and not just sexist but willfully and expressly derisive.

And then added you do not think a woman can mansplain which negates any argument you have that it isn’t sexist.

Not what I said at all but nice try.

I said if all you have is your perception and their ____ sex, race, banana preference whatever and you base a conclusion solely on that you’re a bigot.

I said the term mansplain is specifically sexist and using it makes you a sexist. You simply refuse to admit that derogatorily gendering a specific type of condescension is by definition sexist.

I have asked about a half dozen times now two specific questions you’ve yet to answer.

1. Is calling someone a hard r because of my perception and their race in fact racist?

2. How is using a term that is specifically and explicitly sexist not in fact sexist.

The system can be racist and the person not racist you should read your own source or I dunno like any source about systemic racism.

Cool so those questions, are you going to answer them or are we playing dodge ball for some reason.

How do you attach it to condescension? Why do you even assume they see anyone as a woman at all? Moreover define woman, Heidi Klum, woman? Caitlyn Jenner, woman? Let’s get granular and I’m sure it’ll get less sexist at some point.

No the sex or gender is the irrelevant part unless you have more and that aside using sexist terms is you guessed it, sexist.

Is that a fact though, those sound like perceptions.

Sure, that’s not really relevant nor does it make every shitty cop also a racist though no one denies there’s some overlap it would still be racist to assume all cops are racists.

Neat.

Ok so that question. Or really those questions, are you going to answer those.

Can I drop a hard r because I feel someone was rude to me and they happen to also be black and I feel like those two things are related.

How exactly is using an explicitly sexist term not in fact sexist.

Correct but assuming someone is a condescending ass is wholesale different then assuming they’re x because you are y.

If I assume you’re rude because you’re black is it ok to drop the hard r or is that bigoted? It’s solely based on my perception of both your attitude and your race, is that ok or is that bigoted.

How can they know the person is being condescending, but not be able to use the same faculties to know they are being misogynistic?

I’ll say this again my point is they can’t, they’re simply being a bigot it’s like the main argument here and your confusion on that is quite honestly perplexing.

Probably not, but I could see a semantic argument for it.

Ok so either a woman can never talk down to a woman because she’s a woman or the term is exclusively sexist. Remind me again, is sexism a form of bigotry?

This is grammatically incoherent and I genuinely have no idea what it’s supposed to mean.

We have a word for taking down to people it’s condescending, you choose instead to use a word that explicitly refers to men and is intended to be derogatory, that’s objectively bigoted. I wouldn’t say you’re acting hysterically because you’re a woman that’s emotionally unstable at the moment because that’s sexist.

How is using a sexist term you’ve just admitted you think only applies to men not in fact sexist.

Not at all.

Simple and applies to most bigoted statements.

If all you have to go on is ____ and your perception and you make a conclusion based on that then you’re in fact a bigot.

A woman can mansplain correct? If so using a term specifically sexed and derogatorily used and created you’re in fact a bigot. I’m not even sure what your argument is here at this point because you never actually answer the direct questions I ask.

You’re being obtuse. I can’t tell you how someone can know something that’s impossible to know, what I can say is it makes them a bigot to simply assume shit based on sex.

What claim? Unless you’re saying it’s not bigoted to make assumptions based solely on perception and sex then I think we actually agree you just haven’t made the jump to say mansplaining is specifically and exclusively a sexist preconception.

They can’t, they can say a person is condescending to them, to assume it’s based on either parties sex is sexist. You’ve met a condescending asshole and decided it’s because of their sex, that’s sexist.

How do they “know” anymore then the man “knows” you aren’t aware of whatever it is they’re explaining?

They don’t, they assume, it’s just a bigoted assumption.