A DULL-eyed soldier at a roadblock stopped our car and demanded papers. This is not unusual in Ukraine. Almost four years after Russia’s invasion, checkpoints are a fact of life, like bomb shelters…
I did in fact address your drivel repeatedly. You just have poor reading comprehension. I love how you just quote shit randomly as if it’s going to add weight to the nonsense you’re trying to spread here.
I have demonstrated that the current government in Ukraine is fascist. This is not difficult to do when they openly say that they follow Bandera ideology, and pose with nazi symbols, and have literal nazi battalions like Azov as core of their army. I did not merely point to individual Ukrainian soldiers. I’ve repeatedly explained that it’s systemic. None of this is happening in Russia. In fact, Russia has been the country that has put out UN resolutions on combating fascism, and the countries that voted against it were the US and Ukraine 🤣
Either you’re utterly clueless or you’re just a troll. I wonder what you’re trying to achieve here to be honest. Everybody reading this thread can see you’re full of shit. You’re certainly not going to convince anybody of anything. I guess you’re just really dedicated to making a clown of yourself in public.
I’m going to stop here, and let you you have have the last word that you so desperately need.
Where? You implied that Ukrainian “officials” have been “proudly posing in front of nazi symbols while in office”. In reality you just showed that some Ukrainian fighters have displayed far-right symbols, but as I showed, there have been fighters on the Russian side who have displayed far-right symbols too. Neither case means that the Ukrainian or Russian governments themselves are necessarily fascist (but I think the Russian government is closer to fascism, given their worse record regarding democracy and liberalism).
they openly say that they follow Bandera ideology
No they don’t. In 2022, after Russia’s launched their renewed invasion of Ukraine, Zelenskyy fired Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, because the ambassador had made controversial comments about Bandera in an interview (he had said “Bandera was not a mass murderer of Jews and Poles”). Ukraine’s foreign ministry stated that they did not agree with the ambassador’s remarks: “the opinion that the ambassador… expressed in an interview with a German journalist is of his own and does not reflect the position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine”.
So clearly it’s not true that the Ukrainian government “openly say[s] that they follow Bandera ideology”. In fact they are not tolerating comments that could be seen as supportive of Bandera.
Michael Colborne, who wrote a book about the Azov movement and leads Bellingcat’s work on the global far right, said the unit’s focus appears to have shifted over time from ideology to military effectiveness.
He said that any remaining far-right elements within Azov probably would continue to be “diluted” as the unit grows and that the issue had become less important as Ukraine confronts an existential threat.
I looked up a bit more about the neo-Nazi, pro-Russia Rusich Group which I previously mentioned. Apparently they are “a Wagner Group contingent” (that source is yet another to describe Rusich as “neo-Nazi”). Let’s remember that Wagner were funded by the Russian state. So the Russian state has been funding neo-Nazis to fight for Russia.
In fact, Russia has been the country that has put out UN resolutions on combating fascism, and the countries that voted against it were the US and Ukraine
You should probably try to understand a bit better how propaganda works. Then you will realise why Russia does things like this.
you’re just really dedicated to making a clown of yourself
Not at all. I am showing you real facts and reliable assessments. So now the question is, can you refute any of what I’ve said? If you want to stop here, like you said, then that’s fine. What it means is that you have failed to demonstrate that the Ukrainian government is fascist. As I said before, I think Russia’s government is closer to fascism than Ukraine’s government is, due to Russia’s less democratic political system, and Russia’s less liberal laws (e.g. LGBT laws).
I did in fact address your drivel repeatedly. You just have poor reading comprehension. I love how you just quote shit randomly as if it’s going to add weight to the nonsense you’re trying to spread here.
I have demonstrated that the current government in Ukraine is fascist. This is not difficult to do when they openly say that they follow Bandera ideology, and pose with nazi symbols, and have literal nazi battalions like Azov as core of their army. I did not merely point to individual Ukrainian soldiers. I’ve repeatedly explained that it’s systemic. None of this is happening in Russia. In fact, Russia has been the country that has put out UN resolutions on combating fascism, and the countries that voted against it were the US and Ukraine 🤣
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-un-nazi-glorification-resolution-vote-against-free-speech-far-right-white-supremacist-neo-alt-a8066761.html
Either you’re utterly clueless or you’re just a troll. I wonder what you’re trying to achieve here to be honest. Everybody reading this thread can see you’re full of shit. You’re certainly not going to convince anybody of anything. I guess you’re just really dedicated to making a clown of yourself in public.
I’m going to stop here, and let you you have have the last word that you so desperately need.
Where? You implied that Ukrainian “officials” have been “proudly posing in front of nazi symbols while in office”. In reality you just showed that some Ukrainian fighters have displayed far-right symbols, but as I showed, there have been fighters on the Russian side who have displayed far-right symbols too. Neither case means that the Ukrainian or Russian governments themselves are necessarily fascist (but I think the Russian government is closer to fascism, given their worse record regarding democracy and liberalism).
No they don’t. In 2022, after Russia’s launched their renewed invasion of Ukraine, Zelenskyy fired Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, because the ambassador had made controversial comments about Bandera in an interview (he had said “Bandera was not a mass murderer of Jews and Poles”). Ukraine’s foreign ministry stated that they did not agree with the ambassador’s remarks: “the opinion that the ambassador… expressed in an interview with a German journalist is of his own and does not reflect the position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine”.
So clearly it’s not true that the Ukrainian government “openly say[s] that they follow Bandera ideology”. In fact they are not tolerating comments that could be seen as supportive of Bandera.
Let’s look at a different view of Azov:
I think Bellingcat are a reliable source for things like this. They’re the same people who identified the two Russian military intelligence officers who carried out the 2018 poisoning in Salisbury, England.
I looked up a bit more about the neo-Nazi, pro-Russia Rusich Group which I previously mentioned. Apparently they are “a Wagner Group contingent” (that source is yet another to describe Rusich as “neo-Nazi”). Let’s remember that Wagner were funded by the Russian state. So the Russian state has been funding neo-Nazis to fight for Russia.
You should probably try to understand a bit better how propaganda works. Then you will realise why Russia does things like this.
Not at all. I am showing you real facts and reliable assessments. So now the question is, can you refute any of what I’ve said? If you want to stop here, like you said, then that’s fine. What it means is that you have failed to demonstrate that the Ukrainian government is fascist. As I said before, I think Russia’s government is closer to fascism than Ukraine’s government is, due to Russia’s less democratic political system, and Russia’s less liberal laws (e.g. LGBT laws).