Juicy weekend of rugby, kick offs in GMT

Friday

Ireland vs New Zealand - 2010

Saturday

England vs Australia - 1510
Italy vs Argentina - 1740
France vs Japan - 2010

Sunday

Wales vs Fiji - 1340
Scotland vs South Africa - 1610

Share your predictions, post some reactions, and bonus question: how many cards this weekend?

  • TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nzEnglish
    1·
    4 days ago

    IRE v NZ Halftime thoughts:

    • Rule changes to eliminate escorts protecting the defending jumper on a kick chase will result in more contestable being put up again which will lead to another incident such as Arendse - Barrett, enough of those and someone will get paralysed or killed.
    • Bit of a trend this year that the ABs ruck protection for half backs is lacking, both for box kicks and giving them clean passes. It tends to be a lot worse for slower rucks where the defence timing or general disruption causes problems. I have no idea if it’s allowed in rucks, but seems to me the Irish loosies are swimming around the sides to cause the disruption at the back. All of that is making things messy for the ABs especially when they forget to get someone in to be the halfback.
    • 10 minutes in, reminded how good Nic Berry has gotten as a referee, comms are great (marked contrast to the ref last weekend in Fiji v Scotland).
    • Irish tacklers holding on post contact in the wet is really hindering the ABs ball carriers from a clean place - would be interested to know if its a thing players train in the wet because it works really well to shift their body position on the ground.
    • ABs defence has improved significantly since the first England tests this year, which is letting them control possession and territory a lot better. I’m pretty 50/50 on the coaching team so far but have to admit where there is clear improvement.
    • I don’t really agree with the policy of carding head contacts that are noticed to try to avoid future litigation from players. So you can imagine how I feel about the JB yellow.
    • steeznson@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      Ireland have always been on the edge of legality in terms of holding on too long after a tackle and interfering at the breakdown. They have been doing it for years but referees have only just started pinging them for it. Berry was all over it last night and it prevented them gaining any momentum.

      • TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nzEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        I think if anything he was still pretty lenient towards them, and only when they most blatantly rolled into the path of the cleanout or halfback were they pinged. I’ve noticed in a few of these NH internationals now the counter-ruckers swimming around the side of the ruck and not driving tryline to tryline by more corner to corner which for mine is probably something worth more attention than the current focus on escorts for contestables.

    • TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nzEnglish
      2·
      4 days ago

      Fulltime thoughts:

      • Sam Cane getting driven back into the in-goal came after he got a knee down in field and so was tackled, it could have been a penalty for all 3 tacklers not releasing. Somewhat surprised the scrum move didn’t just go to a Bundee Aki charge with Jordie Barrett off and they instead worked several phases to the right to find the space.
      • All Blacks taking a quick throw instead of chewing up time on the card was stupid, but fortunately got a penalty off a dodgy cleanout. Brainless rugby. Taking the penalty kick after the the holding-on call moments later was much more sensible, and chewed up a bunch of time plus a brilliant kick with all sorts of trouble on the tee put the score back to 1.
      • Stop/Start rugby but doesn’t seem to be impacting the ABs as much as it has in previous seasons - maybe they’ve adapted to it rather than hoping other teams won’t be able to just get away with it. If anything they’re using the stop as much themselves. That and the constant mistakes have made for a mostly very boring game - albeit it tense due to the scoreline.
      • Not sure I agree with taking the penalty kick after the scrum penalty against the Irish tighthead. The ABs have struggled to get into the Irish 22m and the scores are only behind by 1 going for a line out and possible try might have helped to swing momentum more. Albeit, McKenzie is kicking really well so taking the 3 still put the ABs ahead, but give Ireland territory back from the restart.
      • Ireland’s handling is starting to be a bit of a liability for them, they’ve had less than parity in possession so these second half drops are hurting them more than it did the ABs in the first half with 2/3 possession.
      • If the ground was cutting up and the players were looking a lot muddier I reckon everybody would be more understanding of the fairly conservative rugby being played - or rather the lack of rugby being played.
      • Irish crowd behaving like a Kiwi crowd, mostly quiet and just cheering when something’s happened. Not really acting as the 16th man that you’d hope for at a home test!
      • Jordie Barrett’s kick-off catches have been superb and given the ABs a comfortable platform to exit from. And the Irish receipt of the ABs clearance has been woeful in comparison - given up both territory and possession and piling more pressure on themselves. The second half has been well controlled by the ABs, but to a huge part has been helped by Ireland’s lack of control. But for all that 10 points up, 9 minutes to go and Ireland are definitely not out of this.
      • Will Jordan’s kicking game is both ill advised and it sucks. He is a long way off being the quality of fullback in test matches that he is allowed to be at Super Rugby.
      • Nic Berry may well be the form referee in the world right now; comms, calmness, decision making throughout have been excellent.
      • 3 from 3 so far so a guaranteed 3/5 makes this a very successful tour and and overall successful year for the ABs unless they somehow lose to Italy in 2 weekends.
    • Olap@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      1·
      4 days ago

      One for the purists tonight with a bar of soap for a ball. And I think he’ll be off with a red for the contact. Our first 20 minute in the NH potentially. And they 100% play a lot in the wet in the URC and 6n, so they are very used to floor work. Nic I think should be less lenient of Irish shithousery at the ruck imo, but Ireland are very good at this area

      • TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nzEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        One of the first angles shown it looked like the initial contact was shoulder to shoulder which rode up to shoulder-head, and given the impact wasn’t strong he had gone down just could have gone down more, plus the Irish player dipped a little I’m hopeful that commonsense will prevail and it will remain yellow. After all previous Ireland-New Zealand test matches have shown you can make a completely upright tackle, concuss & break the check of the opposition player and it is a confirmed yellow only.