Rule of law is obviously sympathetic to Hamas.
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Tomer-Yerushalmi appeared to be a model servant of the state. Only the second woman to rise to the position, in 2021, she was appointed chief military advocate – effectively the IDF’s top lawyer.
She was shaping up to be such a good little war criminal, but she just had go and develop a moral compass…
The country was also still in the grip of profound shock and, for many citizens, fury at the October 7 massacre, with extremely limited concern for the treatment of detained Palestinians.
Such a way with words. “extremely limited concern for the treatment of detained Palestinians” is a very pretty way to say “thirsting for the blood of innocent civilians”
October 7 massacre
vs
detained Palestinians
Completely ignoring the starved, bombed, and shot ones not in detention (they are dead)
I’m guessing “shaking Israel to its core” is hyperbole.
Then you have no idea how unpopular Bibi and his genocide is…
Like, he hasn’t stopped elections for years because he’s afraid he’ll win too much, the next election him and his cronies are out of power.
They’re supposed to be every year, last was 2022 right before the attack IDF was somehow unaware of despite having the best surveillance network in the world…
Like, it’s kind of a big coincidence that happened right before Bibi was going to get voted out, and it’s been an excuse to keep him in office another 4 years
how unpopular Bibi and his genocide is…
Netanyahu would likely get voted out because of his mishandling and killing of hostages and his corruption but the genocide itself still enjoys widespread popularity in israeli. If there was an election, a slightly different right wing zealot would likely win.
Hasn’t been true for months… (Actually probably well over a year by now…)
Sixty-nine percent of Israelis support ending the war in exchange for a deal that releases all remaining hostages in Gaza, compared to 21% who oppose such a trade, according to a poll aired by Channel 12 Friday.
That was like 8 months ago, but pretty sure it was much earlier
That seems to me to be about hostages, rather than the genocide.
One in five still think killing palestinians is more important than saving the lives of hostages, but that doesn’t mean all of the other four in five oppose having killed all those palestinians.
People are upset about netanyahu prolonging the war and killing hostages for the sake of his career, but that’s not the same thing as opposing genocide.
Give me a minute to read all the sources and polling numbers you just provided…
https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/poll-strong-majority-of-israelis-back-idf-push-into-gaza-city/
"As international commentators wring their hands over the war in Gaza, Israelis themselves are clear: the battle is not over, and it must be won.
A new poll released Wednesday night shows a striking 65% majority of Israelis support the capture of Gaza City and the central refugee camps—still largely under Hamas control—compared to 32% opposed. Just 3% said they had no opinion."
I don’t think someone can be this ignorant so I will just assume you’re a shill.
I’m just pointing out that poll doesn’t support your argument. Prioritizing hostages is just not the same as opposing genocide.
From 5 months ago: 82% want to expell all palestinians in gaza and 47% want to kill every man woman and child
From june: 64% believe they are no innocents in gaza, which justifies killing even children.
So…
but the genocide itself still enjoys widespread popularity in israeli
You admit you were wrong?
Glad to hear!
Voted out? Wasn’t he about to be removed from office to be sentenced for financial crimes just before the war started?
Yes he should have been in prison just like trump
If I understand correctly the real issue isn’t that he would d significant time but rather that Bibi could have no involvement in politics after release.
Right. So they’re already:
wildly unpopular
impossible to vote out
What does this incident do to change that? Nothing
I mean…
I feel like I’m going to have to explain everything about Israel’s government for you to even have a chance of understanding this…
Do you even know how the dissolution of a Knesset works?
If not, don’t you think you should learn how it works instead of making assumptions?
Thatisn’t the contradiction you think it is ifyou understand parliamentary systems.
Yes. This just shows they’ve taken the mask off.
Back in July, Israeli protestors stormed the IDF military bases in order to free the abusers. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o
“We promise that we will never do it again (with the cameras on).”
I’ve let myself watch just one short video of atrocities committed by Israel in the last couple years and I still think about it and choke up thinking about it daily. Just one of many like it.
I am not the strongest person emotionally despite a really tough exterior, I have seen a lot of death and been through some shit. So to think about what’s been happening there all day, every day, to families and children, it’s too much to process. I have to advocate in a completely detached frame or I will be unable to form a cognitive thought.
That’s OK. You’re doing the best you can. Try to go easy on yourself.
The level of suffering people all over the world go through on a daily basis in unimaginable and we’re not capable of caring about it in depth and still functioning. Best you can do is be aware it exists and keep a wall up, only lowering it on occasions where you might be able to help. The fact that you care at all shows you’re not a MAGA monster.
The fact that you care at all shows you’re not a MAGA monster.
It’s wild because I was raised conservative and was one until I left the family compound (let that one sink in) and it was reading, learning and experiencing human life that turned me around pretty fast. I saw science being ignored, I saw heartlessness, I saw them fabricate justification to start a war, and one particular night I saw FOX news play a live feed of a US humvee entering Baghdad shred a civilian truck to pieces with a grenade launcher for no reason, and they were playing patriotic music and had American flags all over the graphics and I got really sick and never watched FOX news again.
I’m so glad you got away from that. It’s hard to not completely succumb to misanthropy sometimes and stories like yours remind me that there’s some hope.
Apartheid state and I am the least bit surprised. This kind of shit has been going on since the Zionist arrived in the early 20th Century.
“Showing video of our actions is blood libel”
Why does this type of bald faced deflection still work enough that they can keep doing it
Blood libel or ritual murder libel is an antisemitic canard which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christians in order to use their blood in the performance of religious rituals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
The fuck? Nobody was making any kind of claim like that. Why did he bring it up?
Deflection to be used to say this is more antisemitism to his base
It’s the “fake news” of the right wing Zionist politicos.
because it’s geopolitically convenient
It’s absolutely shameless, they don’t care how transparent their accusations are.
Jews who defend Israel’s Gaza Genocide are doing more to spread anti-Semitism than anything since WWII.
Any possible relevant comment I want to make violates site policy. They are the 21st century Nazis.
That’s rather impressive for Lemmy. I’ve seen open calls for violent actions stick around and not get banned on this platform. Might have been a different instance than .world though.
Death, death, to the IDF!
The Nazis were German fascists who thought the Jewish population was inhibiting their destiny of creating a master race. Israel does not maintain any of these views so while they are Israeli fascists they are not Nazis.
Pedant gonna pedant.
Nah, it’s messed up to make direct comparisons between Nazis and Jewish people, Roma people or any other ethnicity that was targeted for elimination by Nazis.
It isn’t pedantry as much as it is anti-racism.
It’s not messed up to make valid comparisons
That’s not a valid comparison. It is vaguely racist though.
Sure thing, bud.
A person bullied can still be a bully. A person that was horrifically abused can still be an abuser.
The Israelis in power are now ethnic cleansing Palestinians. Being Jewish or not doesn’t even factor into the equation.
Ok buddy but nothing you write changes what “Nazi” means. Nazis are German fascists. Israeli fascists are not German fascists so they cannot be Nazis.
Slightly incorrect. Anyone identifying with Nazi ideology is a Nazi. There are genuine American Neonazis for example.
The fact you call them “Neo-Nazis” makes it clear there is a difference.
Do you think maybe that the person who originally made that comment knows this? Everyone else knew what they were saying, and I’m pretty sure you did too.
I think the dipshit who made this claim is not any more intelligent or informed than the dipshits that agree with it. The only real question at hand is how much of this comparison is just racism masking itself as something based around morality.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd1c-_56yYGTJNit_GjUB-th5C8M4SKapOibN8vsmicakWNCA/viewform
https://zionism.wtf/ was a better “Zionist or Nazi Quote” quiz IMO but it doesn’t seem to load properly anymore.
And that is still irrelevant.
Whether that argument succeeds, Israel’s reputation as a country with the rule of law is once again in the dock.
What reputation? Israel and Hamas are the same. There is no rule of law. They are hating brutalizing killing each other with impunity. I’m glad I don’t live anywhere near them.
Hamas was in response to the israel treatment of Palestinians
And financed by Netanyahu.
it is shaken them to the core that someone leaked it. not because someone did it.
disgusting… do they think they can match the usa for atrocities, we got that shit on lock. amateurs.
omfg i hate this world
The thumbnail alone looks horrifying
This is not a video you need to see.
The video isn’t shocking Israel. That one of their top lawyers leaked it is. Israel is knowingly genocidal. Literally everyone serves in the military at some point in their lives, so they all know what they’re doing. They just don’t want the rest of us to see it openly.
The most fucked up part about this story is that hundreds of Israeli fascists literally stormed the military base the perpetrators were being imprisoned — committing domestic terrorism — in defence of the war criminals, demanding their release.
Israel is a fascist state because its founders spent the last century propagandising its citizens and the entire Jewish diaspora. It’s not a surprise the Israeli majority think Palestinians are sub-human and their extermination is justified; that will not change for generations, and only after Israel is globally shunned, militarily neutered, required to return to its original borders, and pay to rebuild all of Palestines infrastructure.
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JFC. I’m trying to imagine someone saying this, like what could be going through their head. I just can’t.
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The fascist mental illness on full display.
Unfortunately, it’s not just an Israeli thing. There’s lots of Zionists in NA who say things like ‘the Palestinians don’t even know how to farm’…
They’re useless people. Look how much change Israel has accomplished in the last 60 years! They created a large economy, industrialized, created so many farms and made the land productive. None of the Arab states want to take all the Palestinians, which shows you what they really think. And the Palestinians are terrorists too.
I just can’t even with people sometimes.
They don’t like it when you point out that Israel stole the more fertile areas
And all the stolen land projects on the west bank are strategically built to close up water access
The torture video shaking Israel to its core because it leaked not because of the event happening. The leak is perceived as treason by the majority of Israel and they are fine with the tortures…
