“It’s way harder to get our malware to work on Linux” is more or less what I took away from that.
Yep, spyware is the key, and they don’t like that Linux users don’t get easily spied on.
After reading the title i was like “wait, is this about the game, the programming language, the movie, or corrosion?” Too many damn things called rust these days lol
Had a mini heart attack for a moment, and was wondering how this was even possible.
Man, being a Linux user, I need to be careful about my relationship with my wife. According to this guy all Linux users are cheaters.
sudo chmod 777 Cosmonaut_Collin/Wife.lov
777
You just made her an x wife.
What if you’re the Linux user but your wife is the cheater?
Then I would love to meet her.
You wouldn’t.
Why wouldn’t I?
I’m an idiot and even I can smell the bullshit coming off of this post.
Last I checked every cheat website I ever saw/got advertised/etc were selling windows executables with the swipe of a credit card.
This cry of “Linux is for cheaters!” is just the gaming equivalent of “Wont someone think of the children?!”. a stupid slogan used by assholes to push their opinion/agenda in defiance of facts and reality.
I would sooner believe the sky is purple, bleeds lemonade and the sun is actually a giant egg. Then believe any cheat dev is wasting time developing for Linux.
Rust still exists? My calendar must be wrong.
Please explain why the devs care about cheating.
Seriously - what harm does it do to them?
It’s a multiplayer game. Cheaters ruin other peoples’ fun. Why is that difficult to infer on your own?
rust is a game commonly overrun with hackers who hack to grief other players, as its inherently a pvp survival game that takes a while to build up
People don’t buy games overflowing with cheaters.
You would think that but people keep buying tarkov…
Not enough for them to ever come close to impimenting enough checks server-side, or take competitive or transactional multiplayer cloud-only, but also magically enough for them to demand the ability to install back-doors and malware on our PC’s.
It’s just magical like that yo, they ain’t gotta explain shit. How dare you ask for answers or for them to respect your privacy, cheater?
Also, gross, reddit.
Obligatory fuck Gary Newman
Why do we hate the mingebag now? Mind you, I haven’t bought Gmod since 2006 or '07, so he’s had my money for a while…
I was a beta tester for rust. So he’s had my money for a while as well. But just for being a liar, dropping Linux support and just being an all around douche.
I haven’t played Rust since before they added stores to the game but Garry was a douche since before Gmod paid version came out - though I’ll look into the Linux and lying.
Cheaters who are serious use DMA cheats or fast AI classification on the video output. An external machine runs the cheat software and takes the input from your mouse. It connects to the PC running the game over USB where it pretends to be a mouse. It can adjust your mouse input on the fly to hit targets based on target solutions generated by the cheating PC. It can even read map and location data and display them on the original screen with some additional hardware.
The whole setup costs about as much as a midrange gaming PC though.
Nothing runs on the machine and it is completely undetectable to local anticheat. They could maybe catch people by VOD watching or by analyzing their mouse movement on the server-side… but local anticheat only catches cheaters on a budget.
Why would you bother going through all that trouble if there is a way to software cheat undetectably? This is a rhetorical question.
The level of software detection can change. Unless your ass is in someone else’s chair the complicated solution is bulletproof.
If your software cheat gets detected, which has much lower odds of happening for some games than it does for others, you spend $30 buying a new account. That is much cheaper than spending $500-$2000 on a DMA card and then an assload of money on the actual cheat software that uses that card (because DMA cheats are much more expensive).
I promise you there’s at most a single digit number of people using DMA cheats for Rust, because software cheats are more than sufficient to evade the bog standard EAC they use.
Yeah some people have more access to expensive hardware than others.
Funny, let’s see how this looks after the the GabeCube drops and hopefully with a similar impact as the Steam Deck. I keep my popcorn ready
The LiNuX pLaYeRs ChEaT excuse. It’s bullspit, and they know it. That’s because they can’t spy on Linux players very easily unless someone makes an OPSEC mistake.
No, it’s more that cheaters go for the easiest option. If that’s Linux, then they’ll use Linux.
The issue isn’t Linux users, but game devs/anticheat devs not putting in the effort to find a proper solution.
Hence, the LiNuX pLaYeRs ChEaT gaslight.
This is a misrepresentation of what he said, though. He’s claiming the cheaters (who happen to use Linux) outweigh the regular Linux users (0.01%), which is statistically plausible. Also please chill the edgelord “OPSEC” attitude, we get it…you are Mr.hackerman. (The term you probably meant was privacy or freedom I’m guessing)
Most cheating software is designed by Windows developers, from what I’m aware (I could be wrong), and thus, Windows is the more likely cheating demographic.
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It took many re-reads to realize this is about the game Rust running on Linux, not the language Rust running on Linux
For a solid 10 seconds, I was transported to a reality where Mozilla shunted development of Rust off to some random studio who were removing Linux support because it wasn’t in the budget.
yes, but i think it’s total bullshit aksing Proton user to buy the game and then $15 worth of DLC. I’d be pissed if I were forced to do that.
So, your solution is to completely deny access to the game for all Linux users, even those who’ve already purchased it? Total bullshit.
Technically they don’t deny access to the game. The game runs with Proton, but you can’t connect to the EAC secured servers.
I don’t play rust does it support private servers out of box?
Yes it does, and there are at least some non-EAC servers with a whitelist system that Linux users can play on.
This should be the top comment.
I don’t play the game but I think that’s an acceptable compromise.
And that’s honestly how all anticheat should work: opt in if you’re okay with the spyware, or don’t if you’re comfortable finding a other solution.
I feel like the majority of the Linux Rust players would happily pay $15 to stop dual-booting lol
They should refund for sure
It’s [proton/linux] a vector for cheat development
Bc windows isn’t a real development environment :p
