• YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    I only know about this thing because louis rossman made a video on it and it’s just… Do you really go to your fridge to watch movies or listen to music? Do you really need cameras on the inside of your fridge? It’s so weird

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    22 days ago

    We need individual names and faces of executives, publicly linking them to their deeds.

    “The corporation” didn’t do it.

    They didn’t do it because “it’s their job”

    They had a “screw humans over” button in front of them and knowingly pushed it when they themselves know they didn’t have to.

    Corporations cannot act. People can, and they are the ones responsible.

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    21 days ago

    Wow I have never felt the urge to strangle a refrigerator. I am feeling new emotions everyday thanks to innovations in ad targeting

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      22 days ago

      Picture this; A stereotypical couple in their mid to late fifties. Their fridge just broke, and they need a new one ASAP before their food goes bad. They go to the closest appliance store and browse. The salesperson gets commission on sales and really tries to sell them on the most expensive fridge. This couple does not keep up with the latest consumer rights violations, same as most people. The salesman convinces one of them that the Smart fridge is exactly what they need. It keeps track of when their food will expire, gives reminders to use up ingredients, has timers for cooking, and comes with an app for recipes. The other person is not convinced but they agree to buy it anyway to make their partner happy.

      They get it home and it’s okay at first. It does what it’s supposed to. Then one day, they get an ad for Apple+ which they canceled a few months ago. It mentions one of their names. How were they supposed to know this would happen? Did the salesman inform them of the advertising capabilities? Did it say it on the box? Realistically, this happens way more often than you would think. It’s punishing your friends and family to insult them for not knowing better. We should be pre-emptively teaching them about these practices, not bullying them. Bullying them will only reinforce their purchase because thats how human psychology works.

      Relavent XKCD:

      Panel 1: I try not to make fun of people for admitting they don't know things. Because for each 'thing' everyone knows by the time they're adults, every day there are, on average 10,000 people in the U.S. hearing about it for the first time. Fraction who have heard of it at birth: 0%. Fraction who have heard it by 30 ≈ 100%. U.S. Birth rate ≈ 4,000,000/year. Number hearing about it for the first time ≈ 10,000 a day. Panel 2: If I make fun of people I train them not to tell me when they have these moments. And I miss out on the fun. P1: Diet coke and mentos thing? What's that? P2: Oh man! Come on we're going to the grocery store. P1: Why? P2: You're one of today's lucky 10,000.

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    22 days ago

    Dave , Daaaave . You’ve had too much ice cream tonight Dave. Eat some vegetables Dave, they are good for you

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    22 days ago

    I once asked why anybody would want a smart fridge. Most people didn’t seem to know. The most common answer was that it could act as a focal point for a busy family for keeping track of things like appointments.

    So, like a blackboard/whiteboard, cork board, or even a normal fridge, some paper, and magnets.

    I’m no Luddite. I’ve got smart lamps so i can change the lighting in my living room & bedroom without getting up. And I’m looking into heating so i can have my heating come on when i leave work, rather than at a specific time. That saves effort and money.

    But i just see no reason whatsoever for anybody to have a smart fridge.

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      22 days ago

      “Luddite” has been turned into a slur over time but it is actually a view point that humans should have a say on what technology does to them and for who. They were not technophobes. They were technodeterminists.

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      22 days ago

      Do you leave work at different times each day and week that you don’t know about until you are at work?

      Unless you do, a regular programmable thermostat would be fine.

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        22 days ago

        This might surprise you, but some people work jobs with alternating schedules.

        I’d imagine it’s pretty annoying to reprogram the thermostat every other week or w/e.

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          And it isn’t annoying to have to log into your thermostat every day?

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            22 days ago

            Log in every day? Many, if not most, smart thermostat apps have location based features to automatically handle the use case OP had mentioned. You can set it up one time and pretty much never need to interact with it again.

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              So your thermostat is tracking your location by GPS to know when to turn on?

              I mean, I guess at least I can see how someone might benefit from it I suppose. I certainly don’t want that though.

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                Nobody was asking what you want.

                Nobody here is trying to sell you on one of these, you just jumped in to tell us how you cant fathom why someone would want one and were offered a reasonably common use case as an answer.

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              22 days ago

              The smart thermostat that came with my house has that “feature” and I hate it. If I don’t walk past the thermostat for a few hours, it assumes I’m not home and then lets the house turn into an icebox.

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      22 days ago

      I would very much like a tablet on the wall, like a digital cork board/calendar/photo frame etc

      Building it into the fridge with what I assume are zero options about the actual software involved ain’t it though.

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      In my country they run ads for a “Smart” line of appliances and there’s a part the guy is like “Adjusting thr fridge’s temperature from my phone? Now that’s smart!”

      Like mf how often do you need to adjust the temp??? I do it once after buying groceries or maybe when the season changes and it’s like 1 press of the button at the door, tf?

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        In every fucking commercial for a washing machine someone is in their garden and turns on the machine by wifi. How does the dirty laundry get in?

        The only interesting thing might be a notification when it’s done.

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    22 days ago

    Lol. As a software engineer, give me the non-smart version of every appliance, home feature, and television. It’s why I went with a projector over a TV.

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        But at least, for now, they still require you to connect to a network to receive updates and ads. Once they connect with no user interaction, to non-home networks, then we will be fucked!

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          One of these companies is gonna do a cost analysis on how much they could be making in additional ad revenue and how much it would cost to equip all their TVs with 5g antennas and pay for the data.

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        I use an Epson and just hook up Roku for streaming or use a nearby PC. It has Android TV, but I never use it.

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          Wait, so you got a projector to avoid the smart features of a tv, but the projector has the smart features anyways, you just don’t use them?

          What was the point of getting a projector over a tv?

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            For the size/space, and portability. Plus I’m an Android Developer, so I can play around with the Android stuff and disable a lot of stuff if needed. And I use it to test some of my apps. But never for anything else. But it is far better than the garbage that is Samsung by miles. It’s streets ahead.

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      22 days ago

      Unfortunately lots of affordable projectors are also “smart” these days, running some kind of Android TV

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    A fridge lifespan is measured in tens of years? That tablet on the door is deprecated in something like 5. Make it make sense (and I don’t mean the capitalist sense of see ads and buy a new fridge everytime the tablet is done for)

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      22 days ago

      Modern fridges last less than 7 years.

      I like smart devices and IoT but I hate that for normal people this has been diluted down to cameras and screens on everything with no consideration about privacy or boundaries.

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      Yes screens on fridges are stupid but… The display will definitely last more than 5 years. I’d even go so far as to say that it will last longer than the compressor of the fridge. Where do people get the idea that displays fail very easily?

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        It’s not that the display will fail, it’s that the tablet that powers it will be hopelessly outdated in 5 years and likely not even receive security updates anymore, so your “smart” fridge will probably end up getting a virus while browsing the Internet or something like that.