Sony is begging you: please forget about concord

  • tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    How weird is it that there are people who liked Concord so much that they spent all of their time and money to get something patched together just so they could play it again.

    Didn’t it overwhelmingly bomb and had like no players towards the end?

    Anyways good for them and screw Sony lawyers.

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      20 days ago

      Sony seemed to want it to fail. Reviewers only got their hands on it shortly before release. Most didn’t like it. Marvel Rivals was dropping soon. It was doomed.

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      19 days ago

      Its become Cartmanland to me. I want to check it out. I wouldn’t pay for it, but I want to check it out.

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      20 days ago

      IIRC, it wasn’t a terrible game. It just wasn’t a unique enough game to compete in the space. Just another hero shooter. Just another live service. And thus it failed to meet overinflated expectations. Sony didn’t give it any time to grow or adapt.

      Sony went all in on live service games, expecting them to all do gangbusters and to do so for forever. Their high expectations are slipping and failing to be met with Destiny. They bought Bungie for live service games too.

      Oh, and Marathon. That one is in a precarious spot. Being delayed after an unexpectedly rough public beta.

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          As a Mac owner when I was young, Bungie was my great saving grace for gaming. Loved Marathon even though it ran like shit.

          Seeing it turned into that absolute trash and then discovering they didn’t even use AI but straight up stole artwork for it was the final nail in the coffin. Bungie is dead.

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            19 days ago

            Considering how much Bungie has fucked over their one game and its playerbase for years and seem to keep finding ways to double down on it, I never had any faith in Marathon from the beginning.

            What’s wild is this is far from the first time that studio’s been caught for art theft too.

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    19 days ago

    you’d think they would be happy people are going out of their way to preserve the service. It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these. but nope

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      19 days ago

      Oh it’s never about that. You can’t milk a game that lives for free. Although they pay for publicity (ads, etc.), getting it for free means less cash flow, means less numbers on quarterly earnings, means less investor money.

      It is always about the number on their bank account, never about you, me, or anyone else. They don’t give a flying fuck, they’d happily let us burn in a house fire if it meant just a teensy bit more dollars.

      Fuck Sony, Nintendo, EA, Ubisoft, ActiBlizzosoft, and the rest of them.

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          16 days ago

          I do, and always will. Hopefully more studios will split into smaller ones and start making small, simple games for $15 that will sell like hotcakes. Creative talent is simply wasted on this AAA slop.

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      19 days ago

      Its bad press for them. The whole game is bad news for them all the way around. I bet they won’t ever mention it by name again.

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      18 days ago

      It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these.

      I’m pretty sure they already shut down all their servers. They refunded everyone and try to forget the game ever happened.

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      It all comes down to Japanese peoples’ beliefs. They see modding their games as a shameful behavior because they compare it to plagiarism. As ridiculous as it is, they see it as stealing their ideas instead of coming up with your own. In their eyes you should be making your own game from scratch instead of ressurecting theirs.

      It’s the same reason why Nintendo is so god damn evil. In their eyes they’re doing the honorable thing by suing their own customer base.

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        They see modding their games as a shameful behavior

        Seems some of them are avowed purists.

        They also think modding is a form of cheating, as in supposedly breaking the game mechanics, forgetting that some games are good visually but have awful difficulty or needing more immersion.

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      20 days ago

      I thought the 250m was fake news?

      Edit:

      According to video game podcast host Colin Moriarty, citing an unnamed Concorddeveloper, the game had development costs of $400 million, although this figure was disputed by several PlayStation developers on social media.

      Reacting to the game’s reported development cost of $400 million, Christopher Dring, head of GamesIndustry.biz, questioned media reports that took the figure seriously: “No game has that dev budget. The press reports are the laughing stock of the industry. Concord didn’t even get any above-the-line marketing spend.”

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        20 days ago

        Idk I heard grand theft fuck your union 6 has a budget of 1.5 billion. Maybe also fake news but… yeah.

        Also star citizen is a thing but thats a whole other can of space worms.

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          19 days ago

          Palworld is a AA game, they had outside funding ala Sony, they are not a full indie studio. They are in-between. This is well known.

          Edit: This is also not equivalent at all. Have you seen Sony chip in on the Nintendo v palworld case? They don’t have a stake in it even remotely. Pocketpair stands by themselves, them getting funding by Sony is highly irrelevant.

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                  Im not sure you understand how companies work. Which is okay you don’t have to. But Sony, a super company does not actually have a stake in 99% of the things it invests in. It throws money at stuff for a multitude of reasons then wipes it hands. The thing existing at a particular time helps them the money and stakes are irrelevant.

                  https://www.ign.com/articles/palworld-dev-signs-deal-with-sony-to-form-palworld-entertainment-and-expand-the-ip

                  Basically Sony wanted Palworld on Playstation and probably knew pocket pair would fight Nintendo, this gave them a chance to watch from the sidelines. Also Aniplex was a big part of this deal, unsure how much. Sony doesn’t own the ip, and cannot tell pocket pair what to do. These two things are literally mountains apart, since Sony cannot do anything with palworld.

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    20 days ago

    Hurry! Release the server code on the high seas before the Sony lawyers find you!!!

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    20 days ago

    Had to laugh, here I am scrolling Lemmy and see a post about those server existing, random post next, then this one.

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    19 days ago

    So DMCA takedowns are only for gameplay videos, they haven’t sent any takedown (or any other) notice to whoever is hosting / running / developing the custom server code.

    It will be interesting to see how it progresses.

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      19 days ago

      You can’t go after the server devs without those streamers publicizing the takedowns. The better choice is to hit streamers then nuke the servers once people forget about the game.

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    19 days ago

    StopKillingGames? More like StopMurderingGamesAndExecutingThemInColdBlood.

    Assholes

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      18 days ago

      My understanding is they refunded everyone who bought it.

      Still dumb for them to do this, don’t mistake me.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 days ago

    they don’t even run their servers anymore, it’s not like the fan servers are competing with them…

    is sony turning into another nintendo/disney? flexing their copyright muscle just because they can?

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        19 days ago

        It’s funny - before I actually clicked that link, I assumed it was Sony bricking PSP devices with custom firmware. I’d entirely forgotten they put ROOT KITS on their music CDs. They didn’t get in near enough trouble over that.

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      20 days ago

      I think it’s more to do with its ongoing clash against Tencent. If they allow this to keep going, it may damage their chances on that side as well.

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      20 days ago

      Turning into? They’ve always been this way. It’s been like 20 years since they decided it was ok to install rootkits on people’s PCs to protect their IP rights.

      • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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        Sony has been shit for much longer than 20 years, kiddo.

        It’s interesting. I did a quick search, and couldn’t quickly find many complaints about them before 2000, but technical people complained a lot about Sony products back then. The biggest complaint was that Sony did everything themselves. So, every component inside a piece of electronic equipment was made by Sony, and every time they could get away with it, it would have a custom footprint or custom specs, so that it was impossible to find replacement parts without getting them directly from Sony at huge markups.

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          I remember owning a Sony Powershot digital camera around the time when that tech first become consumer priced (around 2000 or so) and they had proprietary memory cards. I think it even had a custom USB cable with one end that wasn’t like anything else and one end regular USB

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          I said always, I just used an example from this century. Your comment does remind me of the UMD disks and their propriety sd cards

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      The only reason you think Sony isn’t as bad as Nintendo is because they have better PR (and Nintendo is as bad as you think they are)

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      They have always been this way:

      Although Sony ultimately did not win any of its lawsuits against them, Bleem! had to shut down when the huge court costs became too much for the small company to handle. Bleem! shut down in November 2001…

      Source

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      They’ve kinda always been shit to gamers, they just hid it from console gaming; PC gamers frequently got shafted by SOE.

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        I don’t even think they really hid it from the console space. Their entire PS3 launch was peak hubris. They just don’t step on rakes as much as Microsoft does, and Nintendo would shoot a litter of puppies if it helped them protect their IP rights, so they look better in comparison.

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      is sony turning into another nintendo/disney?

      A corporation founded during the Showa era will always be anal retentive about intellectual property.

      (Nintendo was and still a company making playing cards for decades before it found its bread and butter on handhelds then consoles; Disney was already in the marketing and merchandising game by the 1930s.)

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    19 days ago

    They really hate their own fans. Be aware of that next time you purchase any Sony product.

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      19 days ago

      I don’t understand the word “purchasing” in the context of “Sony product”. What do you mean with that?

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          18 days ago

          I’m not awake yet. Thought this was a response to me. Sorry. Have had a crappy night

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        18 days ago

        If you want to pirate a camera, a phone, a set of headphones, a walkman, a games console or any other consumer electronics goods, be my guest. I don’t see how you can do that…

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_Interactive_Entertainment_video_games

          Sony has been the publisher for a zillion games via SEI.

          They also literally directly own a bunch of game studios including Naughty Dog (The Last of Us, Uncharted, all the way back to Crash Bandicoot), Arrowhead Studios (Helldivers), Guerilla Games (Horizon) and now also Bungie (Destiny, Halo). That’s just a few of the big studios they own. Complete list here: https://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-studios-sony/

          Edit: Oh and of course they owned the studio that made Concord (Firewalk Studios)

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            Yes I know, (my Sony boycott is a well-informed one, before I purchase a game I make sure that there’s no Sony stench coming off it), and I can understand how you can pirate those (Which I assume was the joke that Tattorack was making).

            But Sony is much bigger than just its games division. It’s also the music label, the movie label and the electronics. Music and Movies can also be “pirated”, but not the consumer electronics.

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    Are people still having anything to do with Sony? The absolutly worst compny ever, Comcast is second place. Complete shit.